aka Werthead

  • I live in Colchester, UK
  • I was born on January 22
  • I am Male
Talk page archives
  1. 2010 to 2011
  2. January to March 2012
  3. April to June 2012
  4. June 2012 to September 2014

Email Message

Hi, Werthead. I just sent you an email to the address we have on file about an important opportunity. Could you drop me a line at your convenience. Please let me know if the message didn't come through. Thanks!

Brian@fandom 22:29, March 21, 2014 (UTC)

Hi Brian, emailed you back last night. Did you get it?--Werthead (talk) 19:57, March 22, 2014 (UTC)

Wikia's Game of Thrones C2E2 Panel & Upcoming Videos

Hi! Just a heads up that I shot you another email about the upcoming C2E2 Game of Thrones panel. I'd like to know if there's anyone else you might recommend -- we had a cancellation. If not, we'll just go with the two remaining panelists. Working with a limited window for planning, so I'd need to know soon. Looking forward to it. It's gonna be fun!

We're creating a "Fan Brain: Game of Thrones" video for the community on Monday 4/4 which will highlight trivia, Easter eggs, and other factoids from the season premiere. We're planning a blog post today to ask for community input there. 

For the second week of the series, we're planning an episode of Fan vs. Critic: Game of Thrones which pits superfans against critics from Rotten Tomatoes. We want to do a blog post in the next few days which will ask the community who they'd like to see represent them in the video. We're planning the recording session on Monday morning 4/14 via a G+ hangout, so the person would need to be available then.

Drop me a line when you get a spare moment? Thanks, sir!

Brian@fandom 15:46, April 4, 2014 (UTC)

Game of Thrones Opinion Polls

Hi, Werthead!

Looking forward to our Game of Thrones Fan Forum at C2E2 next weekend! I'd like to post 5-10 opinion polls in a prominent spot on the community here that focus on the biggest issues fans are concerned with at the moment. This is intended as a conversation topic for the panel.

Of course, I'm happy to defer to you and the community members about the topics -- I'd love suggestions. You or anyone here are welcome to post that, of course. I'll put something up Wednesday if not. Thanks, Ser!

Brian@fandom 05:19, April 16, 2014 (UTC)


l wonder could this wikia allow for fans to comment articles like some other wikias (TVD,Originals etc.) I think that would be very good! Thanks!

​Sorry for inconvenience!

Food Fiction

Hi Werthead,

Great meeting you last week at C2E2! I was sad I didn't get to be there for the actual panel, but it sounds like - despite Alfie Allen's greatest efforts - it went super well. I hope you're well recovered from all the travel and that you had  a great time!

I actually wanted to reach out to you about one more thing we're working on here.

We've been running Food Fiction programs with various communities. Here is a list of all the ones we've done so far here .

Since the Game of Thrones Wiki is right now very deep into chronicling the new season, we'd like do a Food Fiction with you all! (We reached out to The Dragon Demands and QueenBuffy already but haven't heard back.)

For each program, we start off with a blog post on the community, inviting users to nominate their favorite dishes in various categories. We'd need admin help promoting that post as well as help deciding what those categories should be. We were thinking some fun category ideas could be: Dishes by Region (Dorne, King's Landing, The Wall, etc), Dishes by House (Lannister, Martell, etc), or simply by course (appetizer, main dish, dessert). Here's an example of that from our Adventure Time Food Fiction.

Finally, we'll take the most popular nominees in each category and put them into polls by category on a post on Recipes Wikia. Here's an example from the same Adventure Time FF.

We'd love to get started next week with a post if that's OK by you. We'd love to get your blessing and also get your thoughts on the best categories.


Annette @fandom (profile)•(talk) 17:31, April 29, 2014 (UTC)Acardwell415

Hey Werthead,
Wanted to let you know that we went ahead and posted this Food Fiction contest after hearing back from Dragon Demands. Would you mind giving it a little promotion? Perhaps on the main page? Thanks!
Annette @fandom (profile)•(talk) 16:56, May 6, 2014 (UTC)Acardwell415


Page needs to be unblocked or updated. -- 18:19, April 30, 2014 (UTC)

Fan vs Critic Videos

Hey, Werthead! I reached out to Queen Buffy and The Dragon Demands about this, but haven't heard back so far from either of them and wanted to know if you could help me out! As you know, we've been doing a series called Fan vs. Critic for Game of Thrones this season, and I was wondering if you'd mind us a Fan Vs. Critic section to the Season 4 page for the videos we've been doing? Like I mentioned to Buffy and Dragon Demands, it would be a nice archive for all the videos and a source that we could link to for users who see the blogs and who want to check out the rest of the videos produced so far.

We could update it each week and then it would also be great if the community could link from the main page slider to this compilation page! Let me know what you think, thanks :) Grace @fandom (profile)•(talk) 21:45, May 16, 2014 (UTC)

Awesome, we have a video coming out today so I'll start making the changes I mentioned above. Thanks for getting back to me! Grace @fandom (profile)•(talk) 21:13, May 19, 2014 (UTC)

Hello!My name is Darina, I am photo editor of Afisha Mir magazine, based in Moscow/Russia. We are an established publishing house, with 4 magazines and a series of travel guides. Afisha MIR is a travel magazine with quality photos. We recommend different travel destinations to our readers. Please have a look at it online:

In our next issue we write about David Benioff.' Could you please give us permission to use one image with the credit, which you want  from this site!We want to use this image - Lightbody%2C_Benioff_and_Weiss.jpg

Our deadlines are unfortunately very soon, could you please send the photo as soon as possible?

Thank you in advance! Best regards,

image request

My name is Darina, I am photo editor of Afisha Mir magazine, based in Moscow/Russia. We are an established publishing house, with 4 magazines and a series of travel guides. Afisha MIR is a travel magazine with quality photos. We recommend different travel destinations to our readers. Please have a look at it online:

In our next issue we write about David Benioff.

Could you please give us permission to use one image with the credit, which you want.
We want to use this image -Lightbody%2C_Benioff_and_Weiss.jpg

​If  you're agree, can you send me this photo in high resolution !?

Our deadlines are unfortunately very soon, could you please send the photo as soon as possible?

Thank you in advance!

Best regards,
Darina<> 07:38, May 30, 2014 (UTC) 07:38, May 30, 2014 (UTC) 07:38, May 30, 2014 (UTC) 07:38, May 30, 2014 (UTC) 07:38, May 30, 2014 (UTC)

Talk Page Discussions

I apologize for bothering you, but noticed you wrote this and hoping you wouldn't mind giving some insight on (I wouldn't really call it "an issue") I've had on discussing updates for S4 on the templates for the various Houses. Ardilaun (talk) 11:10, June 3, 2014 (UTC)

The Snow Prince for Admin

I have started a vote on the matter right here. Your opinion would be welcome.--Gonzalo84 (talk) 20:22, June 16, 2014 (UTC)


"Wikia will be hosting a panel at C2E2 in Chicago on 26 April. They're flying me in specially for the event (!) and Kristian Nairn will also be part of the panel. "

I wrote up a lot of questions for this when the Wikia Staffers asked us to submit Q&A questions.

I was very excited that Wikia got to set up a panel with cast members like this.

I have been unable to find any major reports or video of the panel.

What was it like? Was any of our submitted Q&A answered?

I don't understand: how was this panel associated with Wikia as a topic?

How did you promote or discuss Game of Thrones Wiki at the panel? What did the cast have to say about it? (we always hope they read our stuff)

You didn't give a report on how the panel went on the wiki so I was unaware what happened. The Wikia panel was almost four months ago, and the only thing you mentioned about it on Game of Thrones Wiki before was three months ago when you loaded that photo of you with Alfie Allen (Theon Greyjoy):

I wasn't sure what had happened.

Then the thought occurred to check the archives of your WertZone blog, and you did give a brief report there:
"One of the several other hats I wear is the founder and admin of the Game of Thrones Wiki, which has reached a high of 12 million hits per week during this season. Wikia, which runs the whole network, wanted me to join in a panel on the show. Initially it was just going to be myself, Jamie Hari of the Marvel and DC Database Wikis and Alfie 'Theon' Allen, but we were eventually also joined by Kristian Nairn (Hodor) and Natalia Tena (Osha). The actors were fashionably late, which left myself and Jamie to hold down the fort with several hundred fans for the opening minutes.
"The panel seemed to be successful. Alfie talked about the process of playing such a damaged character as Theon and Kristian the various ways the directors have got him to act with such restricted dialogue. Natalia talked about the importance of the TV show as a separate entity to the books and the urgent need for male/female nudity parity in the show. I mused on the fan theory that Littlefinger is turning into Batman (the voice) and we threw it out there that Joffrey had faked his own death."

This is sort of brief and I'm not sure from it how much Game of Thrones Wiki was discussed.

Will you have time to do a more detailed writeup of this event during this weekend?--The Dragon Demands (talk) 06:11, August 15, 2014 (UTC)

Adam I asked you about this over a week ago.--The Dragon Demands (talk) 15:17, August 24, 2014 (UTC)

The panel ended up being rushed due to a lack of firm planning. At one point we were only getting one actor and we only had all three confirmed at the last minute (Alfie in particular seemed uncertain if he was going to do it). We were also told that we were only getting all three actors for the last quarter hour or so, and then we had them for a lot longer. The decision was then made to allow the audience (which was easily 300-400 strong) to ask questions rather than firing questions at them from a long list. The actors didn't stick around for very long afterwards. So it was a bit more of an 'event hosted by Wikia' thing than an event about the Wiki in any real detail. Some fans and readers were in the audience and talked to me about the site afterwards, but we didn't get a chance to discuss the site very much with the actors.

I am also hoping to be able to visit the Wiki more often soon. Six months of both shift work and increased paid writing work in other venues has left me with almost no time whatsoever to work on the Wiki (and you will notice a significant decrease in blog activity as well, and what there has been has been rather brief). This situation looks like easing, at least somewhat, in the near future.--Werthead (talk) 18:42, August 25, 2014 (UTC)

Am I still to create the perfect wiki? ([1]) --The Dragon Demands (talk) 19:10, August 25, 2014 (UTC)

The Jaime/Cersei sex scene in "Breaker of Chains"

You should have written this.

You are the head Administrator of this wiki.

I didn't at the time because I was two weeks away from the deadline to finish my Master's thesis and pass language tests so I could graduate from university. Then, with seven more episodes of Season 4 to go, and a mountain of other information to process, the controversy was already weeks old so I tried to focus on getting a handle on the more current stuff. I did what I could writing up information from Season 4. I was in no position to post it at the time, and QueenBuffy didn't have HBO access.

Why didn't you pay any attention to this issue, despite the fact that it was making the online fandom explode?

YAHOO NEWS was talking about this. was making parodies of it.  Everyone was talking about it, from to Thronecast, and GRRM himself was asked to comment on it.  

I can understand if you took one position and I disagreed with it: I think that due to a major editing snafu, they inadvertently left the implication that Jaime raped Cersei, when that was never their intention. Now you could have posted a counter-argument on here, with cited link sources, that said either that "they actually did intend for Jaime to be outright raping Cersei"...or, that "what matters is what we the audience perceive, not what they intend". I could respect any of these as positions on which reasonable men could defer.

Instead you took no position. You never even commented on the issue. How many times did I remove statements from the "Breaker of Chains" episode, which said "Jaime rapes Cersei" (removed because they were uncited and subjective, and I didn't have more time to write up the thorough investigation I'm writing up now)...and how many times did I remove those comments with the edit-explanation "Why isn't Werthead dealing with this?"....wait, I just did a spot check. Four separate times from April to June.

I am genuinely confused Adam. Why did you make no attempt to help out with this issue? Did you consciously choose not to comment on it at all, as some sort of matter of principle?

--The Dragon Demands (talk) 22:06, October 4, 2014 (UTC)

Answer me today, Adam. Not a week from now.--The Dragon Demands (talk) 22:13, October 4, 2014 (UTC)
Adam, I can read your public twitter account and public blog, and you made a new post 7 minutes ago: two hours ago I said "answer me today, Adam" not "Adam, continue to marathon True Detectives Season 1 in its entirety." --The Dragon Demands (talk) 00:12, October 5, 2014 (UTC)
Knock knock?--The Dragon Demands (talk) 22:09, October 5, 2014 (UTC)
Well what we have here, is failure to communicate.--The Dragon Demands (talk) 01:54, October 6, 2014 (UTC)
Three days. It's been three days, Adam. Do you even check the wiki that frequently? For a given three day interval? The last time I even saw you edit anything on here was two weeks ago. I can read your social media posts (blog and twitter) have been "online" in these two weeks, talking about other science fiction and fantasy series. Why didn't you, at any point when you were typing those online, take the 2 minutes it takes to simply login on the wiki you are the head Administrator of, to check if anyone has left you messages?
Acknowledge a basic communication between you and one of the other Administrators.--The Dragon Demands (talk) 19:16, October 6, 2014 (UTC)
ANSWER ME.--The Dragon Demands (talk) 23:53, October 6, 2014 (UTC)

My last message to you was 7 minutes to midnight, UTC (I'm in New York, so it was 7 minutes to 8:00 PM). It is now 10:30 PM, NYC time.

At around 7:20 PM, you still had internet access and were on the make a Tweet that you were continuing to watch "The Strain" Season 1, now up to episode 3:

Then two hours later at 9:06 PM NYC time, you responded to someone making a retweet of that one, to say that you had read the first two books of "the Strain" series.

You are watching "The Strain" instead of responding to a Administrator-level discussion. You are live Tweeting your thoughts on the episode of "The Strain" you are watching, casually revealing that you have internet access, you just won't take the 30 seconds it takes to check in on Game of Thrones Wiki.

Wait a minute...doing some math here...there's a 5 hour time difference between England and New York City, and Twitter has an 8 hour time difference from England because it uses California time...judging from the links I posted just now, you started marathoning "The Strain" Season 1 at midnight England time, and in the second Twitter post, apparently stayed up until at least 2 AM at night watching "The Strain"? Not checking in on the wiki in all that time, despite being on Twitter to talk about "The Strain"?

...but not before, about 20 minutes into watching "The Strain", at 20 minutes after midnight local time, you also took the time to make a reply to someone commenting on your previous Tweet about marathoning True Detectives Season 1:

Answer me.--The Dragon Demands (talk) 02:38, October 7, 2014 (UTC)

Knock knock

I've initiated a Vote of No Confidence in you Adam Whitehead, aka Werthead, as the Wikia-Bureaucrat (head Administrator), and seeking to revoke your status as an Administrator of any rank at Game of Thrones Wiki.--The Dragon Demands (talk) 17:20, October 10, 2014 (UTC)

Vote conclusion

By a unanimous vote of five to zero, with no abstainments, the assembled Administrators of Game of Thrones Wiki have concluded that Adam Whitehead (Werthead) is to be stripped of all rank and office on this wiki, including his status as a basic Administrator.--The Dragon Demands (talk) 03:58, October 11, 2014 (UTC)

Wikia Staff said that, as per your acceptance of the vote, you need to remove yourself from the Bureaucrat and Administrator categories via your user rights management page.--The Dragon Demands (talk) 02:20, October 13, 2014 (UTC)

Please don't twist my words, Dragon Demands. I didn't say "need." I said that Adam can and therefore has the ability to remove his own rights.
On a sidenote, it was great to meet you Adam! Hope you had a safe and pleasant trip back home. - Brandon Rhea@fandom(talk) 02:59, October 13, 2014 (UTC)
I'm sorry, I misunderstood. I hope you both had productive discussions about the wiki. --The Dragon Demands (talk) 03:06, October 13, 2014 (UTC)
Quite separately from wiki-matters, Werthead, this Ebola scare is starting to get nuts with the airlines and such. I hope you don't run into any troubles with all of the extra screening going on.--The Dragon Demands (talk) 04:27, October 13, 2014 (UTC)

I would genuinely feel bad if you stopped contributing to this wiki entirely. I understand if you have to prioritize other things in your life at the moment. You've also mentioned on your public account the other troubles going on in your personal life at the moment and I do not mean to add to them. I hope the publication project you've been working on sees fruition.

Not as an empty compliment...I genuinely think you're one of the best scifi bloggers I've ever read. I enjoyed all of your Doctor Who retrospectives...I was *cheering* when I read your BSG reviews.

In a perfect world in which rich bastards didn't destroy the global economy in 2008, we'd all be getting paid to blog about scifi shows, working a mere four hours a day.

I hope that through some miracle, you get a dream job as a paid pop culture blogger, with enough time and more to devote to both that and Game of Thrones wiki-writing. I don't know how; in some different reality, where I could still call you "friend". You and I are of a kind. I regret that we met in this way. --The Dragon Demands (talk) 04:27, October 13, 2014 (UTC)

To be honest, I really couldn't bring myself to ever ban you from the wiki. Faced with that real possibility, now with time to think...that's a road I don't want to go down. If it helps you get into another London Worldcon to say you're the "Founder of Game of Thrones Wiki", fine. I just don't think it's fair if you go to intercontinental conventions based on that. When you say that your private blog may one day lead to getting a paid writing job...unlike the dozens of slobs on the internet who think that, you actually write quality stuff, and I think you can - so I know you mean it when you say it can really open up a writing job in the future. I just think it's not fair to push that onto the rest of us. Moreover, Werthead...I am not saying this in an accusing tone...why didn't you ever change your Talk page settings so you'd get an e-mail if we sent you a Talk page message? If you'd dropped in every few weeks and mentioned in passing "I'm sorry I'm barely on these days" I wouldn't have been nearly as upset treated it as if it was normal. I don't think you were trying to be inconsiderate, but I think you refused to acknowledge even to yourself how badly things had gotten out of hand.
So when you say "If my inactivity ever got really bad I'd have stepped down voluntarily"...I think you really mean that. But I think you're in denial. Having been in such situations myself over the years...I don't think you'd have ever reached a point where you decided "wow, I'll never realistically get back to the wiki, I should probably announce my retirement"...I can't say I'd give up on it. But enough chances have come and gone that I think that, realistically, if you were ever going to voluntarily retire you should have done so a while ago. Or semi-retire, I guess.
There was a lot of pent-up frustration over this, and I could have phrased some things a heck of a lot better than I did. But I'm still finding it hard to believe in retrospect that you really behaved this inconsiderately towards the rest of us. I shouldn't have yelled quite as much as I did just now...but you really should have been trying to listen earlier. the work situation really so bad as a 12 hour work day?--The Dragon Demands (talk) 05:16, October 13, 2014 (UTC)
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