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Ramsay Bolton

Hey, can you unlock Ramsay Bolton? He's not a sociopath, because a sociopath would mean he has some actual protectiveness and attachment, and he has nothing of the sort. Could you please do it for me? Thanks! --New Beginning 1234567 (talk) 13:54, July 20, 2019 (UTC)


Just noticed you've been really active and have made a lot of edits. Would you be interested in being an Admin? Have you ever been one? If so, which Wiki? I would have to go over it with User:Gonzalo84, but I don't think there would be a problem. Just let me know :) QueenBuffy35px-Pink crown.png 07:03, October 13, 2016 (UTC)

I would love to be an admin but no I've never been one on any other wiki. The highest that I've risen on the official Wikipedia was something called reviewer, I think. But yes I would love to become an admin if you and the rest of the PTB have confidence in me.--Shaneymike (talk) 09:15, October 13, 2016 (UTC)
I'd support this. - Xanderen signature.png 14:41, October 13, 2016 (UTC)
Don't really know what say a "normal user" has in this, but I support this as well. Lord Sharky (talk) SharkyBytesz-Personal-Main-Shield.PNG 18:52, October 13, 2016 (UTC)
As a "normal user" I would not support this, this is only because this idea was escalated due to prolonged absence of TDD. However I have hope that he may come back (perhaps in November) I mean why else would he put November 5, 2016 on his profile page for no apparent reason? And as "wikia contributor" I'd support this however would ask for support of at least 3 more admins before making it official. Good luck. Ramsay (talk) Sworn to Night King 19:59, October 13, 2016 (UTC)
I support adding Shaneymike as an Admin. Ser Shield McShield (talk) 01:46, October 14, 2016 (UTC)

I was busy, but when I returned, one of the first things I was going to do on my own initiative was to suggest Shaneymike as an Admin - even if I'm at full work capacity, it's more than one man can do.

Oh, you should remember the fifth of November.--The Dragon Demands (talk) 03:31, October 14, 2016 (UTC)

You honor me. Thank you very much. :) --Shaneymike (talk) 08:21, October 14, 2016 (UTC)

Well, seems like no objections. I will make you an admin! :) Do you know how to block users who vandalize or spam? Do you think you'll have a good idea on who deserves blocking and who doesn't? If not, you could always ask us. Any obvious vandalism gets a blocking immediate of "infinite" time. Users who don't properly add images (use our image policy of adding image categories and licenses) are warned by adding the template (template:ImagePolicyFirstWarning I believe it is). Again, if you get confused, just message one of us and we can take care of it until you get the hang of it. Let me know if you have any questions. QueenBuffy35px-Pink crown.png 00:14, October 15, 2016 (UTC)
Thank you very much. I am honored. I don't know how to block users who violate protocol yet but yes I have a PRETTY good idea when such actions are warranted, especially after my interactions with certain users. I've been watching how you all go about handling those users as of late, and I will strive to do the same and not abuse these rights you've bestowed upon me today. :)--Shaneymike (talk) 00:51, October 15, 2016 (UTC)
No problem. You click on the vandalism person's name, then click "Contributions". Then you click "block". Then you'll click on a time frame. I usually click my own time and type in "infinite". You can write a reason if you'd like, in the drop down menu there is one that says vandalism. QueenBuffy35px-Pink crown.png 00:56, October 15, 2016 (UTC)
Doesn't sound complicated. I will definitely take that action whenever I see someone blanking entire articles or posting spam as we saw earlier today. As for other types of offensive behavior, I'll follow the example that the rest of you have set and only block those types of users as a last resort. Thank you all again for bestowing me with this honor. :)--Shaneymike (talk) 01:51, October 15, 2016 (UTC)

Hi Shaneymike, just wanted to say congratulations on the appointment as an admin. I've only been here a short while and really just tinker around at the edges of pages, but I've watched from the sidelines what has gone on during my time here and I have to say it is a well deserved recognition of your massive contribution to this wiki. Keep up the good work and best of luck for the future. Regards, Yyp 11:59, October 15, 2016 (UTC)

Thank you for your kind words, Yyp. They are much appreciated. :) --Shaneymike (talk) 12:19, October 15, 2016 (UTC)

Vandal noobs

Some of the steps we take with the profiles of permanently blocked vandals:

  • The entire content of the UserPage is replaced with the {{BlockedUser tag, then protected indefinitely.
  • A message is posted in the talk page explaining the reasons of the block. The talk page is also protected to prevent sockpuppets from vandalizing the page. Sometimes I remove the automated welcome message.--Gonzalo84 (talk) 04:58, October 18, 2016 (UTC)
Thanks. I tried figuring out how to make the time "infinite" yesterday and I was just about to ask you, but I see Buffy already covered that in one of her previous messages. I'll do that along with those other steps you mentioned next time.--Shaneymike (talk) 09:39, October 18, 2016 (UTC)


No I really don't know how to do the family tree format thing. I believe Gonzalo and TDD may know however. Sorry I couldn't be much more help. Coding was never my strong suit. QueenBuffy35px-Pink crown.png 19:50, October 20, 2016 (UTC)
No biggie. The problem i encountered when i tried copying and pasting was that the articles wouldn't appear. Otherwise it looked ok.--Shaneymike (talk) 20:03, October 20, 2016 (UTC)


I always thought you should be an admin anyway. I always come to you when I have a prob. Now I have a question. How come hardly anything under "Production" actually counts toward the badge points? I think only one category does. The one with...crap i can't think right now. Like Dunk & Egg and the rest of those. Nothing else. And thanks to you I've just mainly focused on characters and the like. But everyone is such great writers! What else can I be doing besides looking for mistakes in articles?

Also look out for Stannis'... it sould be Stannis's. I find a lot of those!

SummerandBran633 (talk) 00:55, October 26, 2016 (UTC)

Hm, I'm a little confused by your first question. What makes you say hardly anything under "Production" counts toward a badge?--Shaneymike (talk) 01:13, October 26, 2016 (UTC)
Jumping in here - first, thanks on the apostrophe issue. I knew there was a rule but couldn't remember what it was and never found the time to look it up.
Secondly, I have no info about the badges. I really don't know how they work.
But to your last question, what would you like to do? I'm focused on the heraldry (though my contributions have a been a bit slow lately due to my work schedule and I've been teaching myself how to better create coat of arms). Is there something that you think needs work - besides finding mistakes in articles? If you can't think of anything, have you looked at the articles of the earlier history? A lot of those were written quickly and need more than just clean-up of mistakes - some need substantial editing, which is something you seem to excel at.
Regards, Ser Shield McShield (talk) 01:57, October 26, 2016 (UTC)

clarification of first question

There is a badge called "Stunt Bear" in which you need to edit articles under "production". Now, there's a Main Tab labeled "Production" with:

  • writers
  • directors 1-3
  • directors 4-5
  • crew
  • actors
  • production
  • merchandise

You would think any of these would fill the Stunt Bear badge since it's under the main heading of "Production" but only the things under the smaller bullet point of production fill the Stunt Bear Badge. I guess I don't care but i was wondering. Did you answer my other questions? I can't remember...

Aside from looking out for mistakes, I usually just think of ways to improve the articles.--Shaneymike (talk) 08:21, October 26, 2016 (UTC)
You might have to ask one of the bureaucrats why those other bullets fall under the Production tab but don't count towards the Production badges.--Shaneymike (talk) 08:33, October 26, 2016 (UTC)
Or rather ask them why we place them under that tab without categorizing them under "Production". That's the reason why they don't count towards those badges. But before you go around adding the Production category to the article that fall under those other bullets in the Production tab, I would ask one of the burueaucrats if there's a reason why we have them under the Production tab but not under the Production category. I know that sounds confusing. Take a look at one of the article under the Production bullet, scroll down to the bottom to glance at the categories, and then do the same under let's say Actors. That will show you what I mean. But before you change anything to those articles, ask one of the bureaucrats.--Shaneymike (talk) 08:47, October 26, 2016 (UTC)


Dude you ask them! Aren't you closer to the Bureaucrats than a peon like me?! 

SummerandBran633 (talk) 02:41, October 27, 2016 (UTC)

Sorry for my absense

I was helping on the Westworld Wiki, HBO's newest show. Also, with the latest goings on in the USA I haven't really slept much. Trying to get things together to head north. I am around though from time to time, so if you need anything, feel free to ask. :) QueenBuffy35px-Pink crown.png 16:25, November 10, 2016 (UTC)

Will do! --Shaneymike (talk) 16:52, November 10, 2016 (UTC)


What counts as an edit? Cuz I have been editing new pages like crazy and my number stays at 194 and I'm dying to see it go over that 200 mark. It seems like it's stayed at 194 for a while now. Maybe my odometer is broken:) SummerandBran633 (talk) 12:43, November 18, 2016 (UTC)

Try refreshing your browser. - Xanderen signature.png 12:46, November 18, 2016 (UTC)


Do you have an email address? Something needs to be discussed on this Wiki. There are users who are obviously ignoring the image policy and we need to discuss their future here. Thanks. QueenBuffy35px-Pink crown.png 19:11, November 19, 2016 (UTC)

Is there a way I could give it to you so that it stays private?--Shaneymike (talk) 21:48, November 19, 2016 (UTC)

Sand Snakes sigil

I have here a new sigil for Dornish bastards. Should we use it? IDONTCAREWHATANYONESAYSIAMTHEBIGGESTHPFAN (talk) 14:28, December 11, 2016 (UTC)

The show hasn't established bastard heraldry so we won't use it.--Gonzalo84 (talk) 20:49, December 11, 2016 (UTC)
Hey, IDONTCARE..., I wanted to point out that sigil is not a sigil for "Dornish bastards" but one for Martell bastards. But as Gonzalo84 said, the show has not used bastard sigils so far. Hopefully, Season 7 will give us some heraldy to use for the Sand Snakes or at least confirm they are using Martell heraldry. Plus, I am hoping the show will use a House Uller sigil for Ellaria Sand.
Finally, please note I have deleted Sand-Main-Shield.PNG since it will not be used and I want to eliminate the possibility it gets confused by someone in the future. But thanks for all your edits - much appreciated for your work.
Regards Ser Shield McShield (talk) 19:12, December 12, 2016 (UTC)

Eko is Oke

Hey! We really shouldn't antagonize Eko. Ppl like him are just idk...brats? For lack of a better word. I really don't get offended easily so I'm really good at seeing things from both sides. SummerandBran633 (talk) 00:38, December 13, 2016 (UTC)

Just tell him to leave me the hell out of it the next time you confront him about how he pushes people's buttons around here. Shaneymike (talk) 02:27, December 13, 2016 (UTC)

Yup, will do. Sorry to have involved you. You have more history than I do with him. I consider you all interesting and fun people to bounce ideas off of. SummerandBran633 (talk) 12:09, December 13, 2016 (UTC)

I have reviewed the situation, Shaneymike:

Do what needs to be done.'Bits

--The Dragon Demands (talk) 06:28, December 13, 2016 (UTC)

When I said "do what needs to be done" I meant "immediately give him a permanent ban for pervasive intimidating behavior". You get to swing the sword.--The Dragon Demands (talk) 23:29, December 15, 2016 (UTC)

Done. Shaneymike (talk) 00:36, December 16, 2016 (UTC)

Yes. Er, forgetting something?'Bits

--The Dragon Demands (talk) 00:59, December 16, 2016 (UTC)

I was going to do that. Right now I'm in the process of laying out the reasons for the ban on Eko's talk page, which I've protected per Gonzalo's instructions when blocking someone. Shaneymike (talk) 01:02, December 16, 2016 (UTC)

House Velaryon family tree

Please, instead of using the profile images, we need new, cropped images (use those from other family trees to get the exact size). As admins we must set the example if we are to demand other users to follow formats and guidelines.--Gonzalo84 (talk) 18:21, December 13, 2016 (UTC)

Yeah, I noticed the images looked funny. I think I'll stay away from the family trees from now on. Those are tricky. Shaneymike (talk) 19:14, December 13, 2016 (UTC)

eko is NOT oke

First of all, thank you for banning Eko. First confronted him about being a bully. When that didn't work, I went to the good ole addage: kill 'um with kindness, But he's banned totally forever right? SummerandBran633 (talk) 19:44, December 16, 2016 (UTC)

Don't react to him please, just ignore him entirely. - Xanderen signature.png 19:46, December 16, 2016 (UTC)


Thank you for protecting my page. Does this count for all anons? Do you think Eko would create another profile? SummerandBran633 (talk) 20:29, December 16, 2016 (UTC)

Anonymous editing

I've disabled anonymous editing for the time being, as that seems to be the only solution. This means that Eko won't be able to edit the wiki from any IP address... he'll have to register a new account and create a new e-mail address every time he wants to attempt any sort of vandalism, making him very easy to deal with... unfortunately this applied to all anonymous editors on the wiki, but for now I think this is our best bet. - Xanderen signature.png 20:39, December 16, 2016 (UTC)

Agreed. I was thinking the same and was going to request having that done. I would have done that myself but I don't know how. Shaneymike (talk) 21:04, December 16, 2016 (UTC)

People editing my talk page

Sorry to bother you again but all of a sudden I got tons of emails saying other users were editing my talk and profile page. Why would they do that? One person said "WAR IS ON. If the admins won't fight this war maybe I'll just start terrorizing the innocents. Starting with you". These all have me shaken to the core! Are we supposed edit talk pages?SummerandBran633 (talk) 21:20, December 16, 2016 (UTC)

The anon that did that has been dealt with. Xanderen has disabled anonymous editing for the time being. Shaneymike (talk) 21:49, December 16, 2016 (UTC)

SummerandBran663: Just to add some details - basically, you got caught in the crossfire and the admins were reverting vandalism on your talk and profile pages to get them back to way they were, which is why you got so many emails in such a short period. As Shaneymike said, that has been handled for the time being so feel free to go about your business.

Regards Ser Shield McShield (talk) 22:59, December 16, 2016 (UTC)


Dude. I've made reasonable, minor edits to pages all day and you keep reverting them back and blocking me from the pages w/o any communication. What gives? I'm doing my best to make the wiki more comprehensive, and to follow all rules laid out to me. I wasn't aware that "that anyone can edit" actually meant "that only the Admins can edit and no one else has any good ideas". Volvlogia (talk) 04:32, December 28, 2016 (UTC)

As I wrote on your talk page, I do not recall Jaime, Bronn, or Brienne using those "aliases" you added to their pages. And that Pigface nickname you added to Margaery's was as I recall just a cruel name that a few unseen characters gave her. Hardly worth adding to her page.--Shaneymike (talk) 04:55, December 28, 2016 (UTC)

Bronn refers to himself as "Cooper" and Jaime as "Darnell" (spelling may vary) in the episode "Sons of the Harpy" while speaking to a Dornish guard. If you think I'm full of it then check yourself. Brienne was called Big Brienne by Jaime is "Valar Morghulis", it's just about as relevant as "Brienne the Beauty" so it belongs as well. Volvlogia (talk) 05:22, December 28, 2016 (UTC)

In addition, the reason of the reversion regarding Lannisport was not remotely given, the image I used is much more descriptive, and all signs point to the polict of canon images < map images. Volvlogia (talk) 05:23, December 28, 2016 (UTC)

After taking a look at the White Harbor article, I agree with you about Lannisport. And after Googling it, I'll owe that it appears you may be right about Bronn and Jaime calling thenselves Cooper and Darnell. However, I disagree with your insistence that Jaime calling her Big Brienne that one time is as relevant as her being called Brienne the Beauty.--Shaneymike (talk) 08:58, December 28, 2016 (UTC)


Quick language survey, for wiki interlink purposes (answer in thread): --The Dragon Demands (talk) 00:41, January 2, 2017 (UTC)


Hi Shaneymike, Were you the one who makes the little banners for our signatures? I can't remember who did those. QueenBuffy35px-Pink crown.png 20:23, February 26, 2017 (UTC)

It definitely ain't me. I think that's Xanderen's speciality. Shaneymike (talk) 20:32, February 26, 2017 (UTC)
I may be mistaken, but I think it was someone who is now banned.--Gonzalo84 (talk) 21:49, March 1, 2017 (UTC)
I think you're referring to EchoesOfTheTower. Shaneymike (talk) 22:49, March 1, 2017 (UTC)


Thanks for helping out with the categories. Just a quick note - there are a few of extra housekeeping tasks that need to be performed when doing this. A: the redundant categories need to be removed; we are phasing out "Season ? Characters", Major, Minor, Recurring Characters etc. The main "Characters" category also needs to be emptied and deleted (eventually). B: the intro needs to be tweaked slightly - IE: Twyin Lannister was the Lord of Casterly Rock, and the father of Jaime, Cersei and Tyrion Lannister instead of Tywin Lannister is a recurring character in the first season, and a major character in the blah blah blah. And C: characters that are classed as "House Frey", for example, need to be re-categorized depending on whether they're a member, bannerman, or servant. Thanks again. - Xanderen signature.png 12:19, May 7, 2017 (UTC)

Queen regnant

"Queen regnant" refers to a queen who rules in her own right. "Queen regent" refers to a queen who rules on behalf of someone else, most commonly her underaged child (as Cersei does for Joffrey, and later, Tommen). I feel it is necessary to distinguish that Daenerys Stormborn is referred to as "the First of Her Name" not because Daenerys of Sunspear was never a queen, but because she was never a queen regnant. Even if Daenerys of Sunspear had married her brother and become Queen, she still would only have been queen consort, and therefore would still not have been called "Daenerys I" (as such numerals are only used to refer to reigning monarchs, not their consorts). ~ Lilyflower422 (talk) 03:52, June 7, 2017 (UTC)

Okay, you go ahead and put it back in if you haven't already done so.--Shaneymike (talk) 08:38, June 7, 2017 (UTC)


Could you please update this page: Thanks. MedusaandPoseiden (talk) 08:14, July 9, 2017 (UTC)

Season 8 Daenerys

Hey there! Hope you've been having a good day.

In regards to including Season 8 in Daenerys' infobox, this is the source displayed on the Season 8 page; I don't know where to put this reference on Dany's page exactly. I would also like to mention that Season 8 has been accounted for on Sansa , Davos and Tycho 's infoboxes, so I think we're allowed to do the same for Dany.

Kind regards,

Queen of the Andals and the First Men (talk) 09:25, July 10, 2017 (UTC)

Do you by any chance know who included Season 8 on those other pages?--Shaneymike (talk) 09:34, July 10, 2017 (UTC)

Just checked the revision histories and it was me, back in April of this year. I would be more than happy to remove them if you'd like.

Queen of the Andals and the First Men (talk) 09:37, July 10, 2017 (UTC)

Never mind. I see they are all confirmed to be returning that season. My mistake.--Shaneymike (talk) 09:39, July 10, 2017 (UTC)

Queen Consorts

Sorry, it's just that it is on the Cersei Lannister page and she is the most recognisable of all the Queen Consorts, so could you remove it? Thanks. MedusaandPoseiden (talk) 11:27, July 23, 2017 (UTC)

Lord of Winterfell

Can you or another admin immediately lock Lord of Winterfell page? The edits before mine were really misleading and outright inaccurate in favor of Jon Snow. Please,and Thank you!Kai200995 (talk) 01:39, August 2, 2017 (UTC)

Watch this playlist

Please watch this playlist I made on YouTube. Try to get to it soon, it's about 13 hours of content already and its unfinished - but it represents over a year of research. I figured out everything we didn't understand before. You need to see this. --The Dragon Demands (talk) 02:33, August 6, 2017 (UTC)

Stark men

Hi! I saw you undid everything I've worked on the last couple of hours and called it "overkill". Instead of editing it or talk to me, you desided to erase it all. I am very disappointed since I see you're an admin. I wanted the readers of this wiki to know which guards, soldiers and inhabitants loyal to House Stark are still alive, since the once who are introduced lately are completely new. I don't see why we can't tell who died with Robb and who are fighting for Jon? 

Khalkovarro (talk) 23:50, August 7, 2017 (UTC)Khalkovarro 

Please stop saying all these characters died at the Twins. That may make the most sense but seeing as how their deaths aren't actually shown or mentioned, saying that they died at the Twins is merely speculating. Shaneymike (talk) 00:27, August 8, 2017 (UTC)


Arya told Sansa, "You passed the sentence, I just did the execution" or whatever. QueenBuffy35px-Pink crown.png 06:51, August 28, 2017 (UTC)

I stand corrected. Shaneymike (talk) 09:10, August 28, 2017 (UTC)

Viseron The Ice Dragon

HBO's viewer's guide lists Viseron as an "ice dragon". Obviously, that's not how an ice dragon is described in the books but that's why he is labeled an ice dragon here.

Regards, Ser Shield McShield (talk) 23:12, August 29, 2017 (UTC)

Ok. Shaneymike (talk) 23:19, August 29, 2017 (UTC)

Removing videos

Please start the discussion in the correct place to remove videos from the top of pages.  Thanks Ganiman (talk) 03:47, September 8, 2017 (UTC)

Apparently, there's been one going on in the Administrative board for a while now. Glad I looked there before I started another one in the general board as I was getting ready to do. When leaving messages on talk pages, please remember to include a headline. Thank you. Shaneymike (talk) 09:14, September 8, 2017 (UTC)

article changes

Do you like the changes I made to the longer articles? Minimizes each season by bracket?? I thought it woud keep down on the space :) QueenBuffy35px-Pink crown.png 22:37, September 9, 2017 (UTC)

I could have sworn someone attempted that in the past. I know we use that for quotes sections but I could have sworn that somewhere along the way someone attempted to use it in certain bios. Maybe I'm wrong. If someone just wanted to read the articles, I would say your changes definitely make it easier. But I'm wondering if it migh:t make editing harder by giving us more to scroll thru to get where we want to edit. Shaneymike (talk) 01:25, September 10, 2017 (UTC)

It shouldn't :) Just click the tab of the season, then "edit" :) Saves having to scroll down all the way :D Thank you for being understanding about this too.... I'm getting a little stressed over here. lol QueenBuffy35px-Pink crown.png 21:26, September 10, 2017 (UTC)

Image battle of bastards

Oh I found it in the Season 5 album them. Someone must have put it there. QueenBuffy35px-Pink crown.png 07:21, September 10, 2017 (UTC)


Why was my "Drogon" edit removed? How is that the "remainder of the dragon killing weapon"? The weapon was just on a platform and "Drogon" burned the weapon.


Protaygo (talk) 05:34, September 11, 2017 (UTC)

If you're going to get snippy over semantics, I'll remove the detail about Drogon destroying the remainder of the wagon that the scorpion was on with his tail. Shaneymike (talk) 05:59, September 11, 2017 (UTC)

Discord Channel

Can there be a Discord channel for the wiki? Byzantinefire - There are no strings on me (talk) 18:00, September 15, 2017 (UTC)

Jon Snow

Can you add the date and location of Jon's death in his infobox? Vegan God (talk) 19:20, October 15, 2017 (UTC)

I added the date but not the location because that is technically already there. Shaneymike (talk) 19:43, October 15, 2017 (UTC)

Your undo on "Daario Naharis"

Commander of the Second Sons is a position, not a title. It's like saying "CEO of Microsoft" is a title. VapingHeathen, the Raven 00:54, November 19, 2017 (UTC)

Giveaway Promotion

Hi Shaneymike! I'm Mike from FANDOM's Community Development Team. As you might have noticed, we are currently hosting a Giveway for a Seasons 1-7 Box Set. I am hoping that I can get your permission to advertise the giveway in the Slider on the Main Page? It will only run until December 8, and then I would revert the slider to its current state. - Cavalier One Talk 17:41, December 1, 2017 (UTC)

You'll probably need to ask to the bureaucrats about that. Shaneymike (talk) 19:30, December 1, 2017 (UTC)

No problems, thanks for the response! - Cavalier One Talk 21:50, December 4, 2017 (UTC)

Will GOT get another season Rogue maltron talk 12:51, June 11, 2017 (UTC) 13:45, April 7, 2018 (UTC) the rogue nation

Article Videos

Hi there. I've noticed on Season pages, like Season 8, the top of the article has a video. Then, as you scroll down, the video shrinks to a smaller window. I don't see how you're doing this in the wikitext. Can you clarify? -- LordTBT Talk! 04:48, April 9, 2018 (UTC)

If you scroll up further, you'll see there has been a discussion about all these videos for some time now. Honestly, I don't know who keeps adding them or how they do it but it's getting on my nerves. I'll have to talk to the other mods about it. -- Shaneymike (talk) 08:31, April 9, 2018 (UTC)


...those unsourced quotes just get on my nerves. I'm not actually trying to change to page. ABCXYZ12345678 (talk) 03:17, May 27, 2018 (UTC)

Wiki tenses - question

Hi. I apologize for my mistakes with changing from past to present tense. I tend to write in present-tense/narrative present when describing fictional events due to writing habits I picked up editing plot summaries[1] on Wikipedia, which I understand isn't this wiki so rules may be different here. For future reference, so I know which tense to use in an article, is there a set of guidelines for writing on this wiki when editing an article so I can avoid these errors in the future?

On that note, other than the mistake I made with assault on the Targaryen fleet (as they were attacked by Euron, not the Lannister forces - I'm sorry for that mistake), were there any other problems with the edits I've made?

Thanks :)

Adrianacandle (talk) 11:14, September 18, 2018 (UTC)

The main thing that bugged me at first was the part about the Sands being taken by the wrong forces, but then I looked at the rest of your changes and saw they were in present tense, which as I said made it sound like it all happens in the upcoming season. Usually with character and episode articles we write in present tense if I'm not mistaken, but not when it comes to describing events from previous seasons in the season articles. Does that make sense? Shaneymike (talk) 11:24, September 18, 2018 (UTC)
Right, yes! I right now realized what you meant in your edit summary when reviewing the revert - that is the article is describing a previous season and that's why it's being described in past-tense. That makes perfect sense and thanks for explaining it to me and your use of tense on this wiki! Likewise, you're right - I was incorrect about the Sands being taken by the Lannister forces when they were Euron's forces. I was about to change that before I saw you had corrected it back. Is it alright to include the other edits made but written in past-tense this time? Are there any other issues? Thanks again! :) Adrianacandle (talk) 11:29, September 18, 2018 (UTC)
Make whatever changes you feel are necessary, just use past tense when discussing events from previous seasons to prevent any confusion. ;) Shaneymike (talk) 11:37, September 18, 2018 (UTC)
Thanks, Shaneymike! I'll keep that in mind from now on! :) Adrianacandle (talk) 11:42, September 18, 2018 (UTC)


See reply at bottom of Thread:51549. TessaVarzi (talk) 05:19, September 29, 2018 (UTC)TessaVarzi

Hi Shaneymike,
Lately, users post the same spam, using strange symbols (perhaps Cyrillic letters), to the website I banned a dozen or so of those users (and their IP as well), and you recently banned one. I believe they are the same person, who uses multiple accounts. Apparently, banning does not help. Is there another way to block that person? Moonracer (talk) 08:15, October 21, 2018 (UTC)
Not that I'm aware of. The first person I'd ask is of course Dragon. Another would be Xanderen since he was the one who discovered how we could set so that anonymous users couldn't edit but I've heard from him for quite some time now. Shaneymike (talk) 08:25, October 21, 2018 (UTC)
I contacted the VSTF, and the spam has been blocked; unfortunately, this section in your talk page was blocked too (not the whole page) due to the spamming phrase which I wrote above. I immediately contacted the VSTF to fix that, and it was fixed.
I apologize for the inconvenience. Moonracer (talk) 13:43, November 3, 2018 (UTC)
No worries, Moonracer. Good job! Shaneymike (talk) 14:08, November 3, 2018 (UTC)

Is this allowed?

Hello Shaneymike, 

This page has been posted lately; I am uncertain if it is allowed. Since you are far more veteran than me as an administrator, could you clarify? Moonracer (talk) 14:12, October 19, 2018 (UTC)

My common sense tells me it's not allowed, so I went ahead and deleted it. Thanks for letting me know. Shaneymike (talk) 15:37, October 19, 2018 (UTC)

I need help with a template

Hello Shaneymike, 

I request your help with the page "Ironborn Invasion of the North".

For the infobox, I chose the "War" template. The problem is that the category "Wars" has been automatically added to the page alongside the template; I can change it to "Battle" (then the category "Battles" is automatically added to the page), but not delete it. The invasion is neither a battle nor a war, but something between - a series of battles which is a part of the War of Five Kings, therefore I think it does not fit to either of the two categories.

I cannot delete that category - it does not appear in the right bottom window in "Edit" mode. In "Source" mode, I tried deleting the word "war" (it is in the second line from the top, under the word "PureConjecture") - but it ruins the whole infobox. I can only replace it with "Battle", but it does not do any good, it just replaces one inaccurate category with another.

Is there a way to delete the "Wars" category, without ruining the infobox?

Another thing: the "Conflict" line (below the "Image" line) is visible in the "Source" mode, but not in the visual mode. I think it is an important detail. How to fix that? Moonracer (talk) 13:00, November 22, 2018 (UTC)

Unfortunately, it sounds like you'll have to take out that template entirely to remove the "Wars" category because yeah that definitely doesn't fit as this is one of the many campaigns in the War of the Five Kings. I'm thinking we might have to create a whole new infobox and while we're at it create similar articles for the other campaigns like "Robb Stark's Rebellion". Shaneymike (talk) 15:28, November 22, 2018 (UTC)
That's a good idea, since now half the infobox is not visible in the visual mode. Is it possible to create a new infobox which will show all the lines, which currently are visible only in the source mode? Moonracer (talk) 16:26, November 22, 2018 (UTC)
I've taken the liberty of adding "Campaigns" as one of the categorires, although I should probably changed that to "Military campaigns" or "Campaigns of the War of the Five Kings". I'm not sure how to resolve the issue you're describing with the visual mode, but maybe that's because we need to create a new infobox. Shaneymike (talk) 16:34, November 22, 2018 (UTC)
Well, I've never created a new template so far... I assume that administrators have the right to do that? Moonracer (talk) 16:39, November 22, 2018 (UTC)
I was just at the "Event" template. It looks as though you'll have to take this higher and ask one of the bureaucrats - Dragon, Gonzalo, or Greater Good. Shaneymike (talk) 17:09, November 22, 2018 (UTC)
The Dragon Demands gave permission to create the new template. 
I tried to do that, either by creating a new template or to edit an existing one, but failed. Could you create the template?
I suggest the following fields, with elements from "War" and "Battle" templates:
{{Military campaign
Moonracer (talk) 06:19, December 18, 2018 (UTC)
I'll see what I can do. I've never created a template before either but I'll take a crack at it when I'm not busy. Shaneymike (talk) 13:04, December 23, 2018 (UTC)

Gregor Clegane Revert

Explain. --Lyrixn (talk) 10:40, November 29, 2018 (UTC)

They still haven't explained what Qyburn did to Gregor. Shaneymike (talk) 10:41, November 29, 2018 (UTC)
Gregor was dead. Hence, he was at the very least resurrected. If you don't know his status and you want to be accurate, then state that. "Alive" isn't his correct status. --Lyrixn (talk) 11:49, November 29, 2018 (UTC)
Gregor was dying, not dead, when Qyburn began his work, so no we don't know for sure if resurrected is the correct status. Shaneymike (talk) 14:57, November 29, 2018 (UTC)


Hello Shaneymike,

I request your help with the page "Assassination of Robert Baratheon".

1) I think the event is important enough to be added to the template of "War of the Five Kings", at the line "Preceding events". Could you edit the template?

2) In the "Factions" section of the infobox, I am not sure I put the correct house Baratheon. Should it be the general house Baratheon (of Storm's End), or House Baratheon of King's Landing?

Moonracer (talk) 06:59, December 11, 2018 (UTC)

I just added it to the template. I would say change the faction to House Baratheon of King's Landing. Shaneymike (talk) 10:03, December 11, 2018 (UTC)
Thanks. :-) Moonracer (talk) 16:57, December 11, 2018 (UTC)
Just jumping in here. Joffrey was the first to use the stag & lion version of the Baratheon shield while Robert Baratheon continued to use the original yellow stag version. So the assassination of Robert should be show the original yellow while stag & lion is to be used for Joffrey, Myrcella and Tommen.

Hello! Not super sure on how this site works just yet, but please hear me out.  I'm quite late to the game to begin watching the show and I just watched it all in the last few weeks.  The page for Jon Snow is quite literally the first thing that pops up on google when simply searching his name.  Thus, from basically super early on in the show I had his heritage spoiler in my face while reading literally the first sentance about him.  Kind of a bummer, with season 8 approaching, im sure the show will gain many new viewers like myself.  Please consider adding some sort of spoiler warning or rewording the "Jon Snow" page so that people know that there are spoilers within the key information about him.  I'd be happy to help in any way I can, but that page is locked, and again I'm super new to this site and it's format. Critterdude542 (talk) 01:39, December 29, 2018 (UTC)


Can you explain to me the rules or format regrading links on the pages. At 1st a thought it was the first time is mentioned in on the page but that is clear not the case.


18:18, January 20, 2019 (UTC)

My biggest beef with that last edit you made on the Bastardy article was you linked Joffrey's title as King to the Iron Throne article instead of King of the Andals, the Rhoynar, and the First Men. Just use that next time. Shaneymike (talk) 18:22, January 20, 2019 (UTC)


Are the edits I made to {{CharPortalAAA}} fine?

23:25, January 21, 2019 (UTC)

And does Dorna Lannister get the Swift heraldry on the family tree?

12:25, January 22, 2019 (UTC)

Yes, Dorna gets Swyft heraldry. I'm afraid I'm not familiar with portals. Shaneymike (talk) 22:00, January 22, 2019 (UTC)
Well I posted a message on TDD's talk page but Charpotralaaa controls how the portals look. So this is on the main page:
Animals and Plants menu.png

See the 3d stuff I added that.


00:10, January 23, 2019 (UTC)

New House Lannister Family Tree

Since you were previously interested in updating the family trees way back at end of 2016, I'd like your opinion of my possible update for the House Lannister family tree. See here: Sandbox/Template:House_Lannister_family_tree

My main goals: adding in Tywald and Tion Lannister and Ellyn Reyne since they all have been added in one of the Histories & Lore, adding in Stafford Lannister since he is specifically mentioned as being killed, but to make that happen means adding Jason Lannister and his wife who have not been mentioned in the show or supplements. But without them, Stafford Lannister would just be a hanging square not attached to anything, which seems weird. I did not add in Alton Lannister since he is so far removed from the main branch.

Please let me know if the broken line above Kevan Lannister makes sense to you. Marrying cousins requires lines to intersect.

Anyway, all please note that I have been able to get all of the profile pics, names and "Deceased"s to line up. A lot of trial and error to figure that out and even so, they don't line-up perfectly.

Thanks. Ser Shield McShield (talk) 03:20, February 16, 2019 (UTC)

I...guess the broken line makes sense. Even though I know that in the books, Tywin and Joanna were cousins, and Stafford was her brother, I don't recall hearing them actually mention that on the show, which makes me wonder perhaps if we should leave Stafford out like we do with Alton at the very least. Shaneymike (talk) 19:53, February 19, 2019 (UTC)
Lancel briefly mentions to Cersei something like, "Our cousin Stafford was killed..." though "cousin" is pretty loosely used in the show since Alton was a cousin but sounds like a very distant cousin. I do vaguely remember Joanna being described as cousin from either Tyrior or Cersei because they were pissed about being forced into marriages. So they were telling Tywin why do they have to get married for the benefit of the family if you didn't by marrying cousin Joanna.
For what it's worth, Joanna and Stafford are described as being brother and sister in both their entries. Ser Shield McShield (talk)
Yes, I believe I added those parts to their entries, even though I didn't recall hearing their familial relationship being mentioned on the show. Although Tyrion called out Tywin for pontificating about sacrificing for the benefit of the family, he didn't go so far as to remind Tywin that he married his own cousin. He just asked Tywin when he ever did something that wasn't in his own interest. I'll definitely have to prick up my ears the next time I watched Garden of Bones to see if Lancel describes Stafford's relationship to the other Lannisters, not that I'm doubting you or anything. Sometimes I notice certain details that I didn't pick up on the first time. Shaneymike (talk) 20:12, February 19, 2019 (UTC)
Yeah, I probably should go back and watch those episodes specifically to make sure what I am remembering is accurate or it's just been too long and I'm remembering reading stuff from here.
In the meantime, how about I add just Tion, Tywald and Ellyn since they are confirmed from Histories & Lore leaving off Jason, his wife and Stafford. Joanna can be left in with no connection to her parents? I'll save the full sandbox in case the others are mentioned later. Ser Shield McShield (talk) 21:53, February 19, 2019 (UTC)
Sounds good to me. Shaneymike (talk) 03:15, February 20, 2019 (UTC)

Testing a featured countdown to the season premiere in your Discussions

Hey Shaneymike, 

Since the wiki's two active bureaucrats The Dragon Demands and Greater good haven't been around to respond yet, I'm messaging you and two of the other recently active admins here on the wiki. We'd love to hear this community's thoughts so we can get this started as soon as possible, so I hope you can forgive me for being so pushy and leaving you all messages! Please see if you can discuss this with the other admins, if they're around and see what you think.

The question at hand is whether this community would like to help us test a new post type for Discussions: A featured countdown at the top of your Discussions to the season's premiere. This will be tied in with our new landing page experiment, Community Feeds.

Please find details on this on The Dragon Demands' user page.

The sooner we can discuss this with you all, the sooner the test could start, which we hope will help all Game of Thrones fans who are super excited for these new epic episodes! Mira Laime  (help forum | blog) 00:05, February 22, 2019 (UTC)

Is it a spam?

Hi Shaneymike,

I was asked to remove this post, but I am uncertain if it is a spam. Is it? Moonracer (talk) 08:18, March 7, 2019 (UTC)

If I may, I only wanted to point out something I noticed. The owner of this blog post is a representative of his website, which has the same exact name and logo as his username. I'm all for entrepreneurship, but this just seems like an improper channel for it. — Ser Eric of Arbor (talk) 08:52, March 7, 2019 (UTC)
Hm, yeah, I'm not sure if this post warrants a removal or not. So far, it appears the user is just documenting things for his or her personal enjoyment, which seems harmless, but I'll look at it more closely. Shaneymike (talk) 10:53, March 7, 2019 (UTC)

Season 8 support

Hey, I’m Brandon from Fandom. I’m hoping to talk with you and all the other active admins about some ideas we have for how we can support Game of Thrones Wiki during Season 8. Do you mind if I include you on an email with the rest of the admins to send you some of those ideas? If so does the email address in your account work best? - Brandon Rhea(talk) 20:17, April 9, 2019 (UTC)

Gallery vs Image Galleries

Just a heads up as I clean up the galleries. Image galleries such as "Gallery: Jon Snow" needs to be categorized with Image Galleries (and Gallery if you wish) only. Other categorized pages, like "Category:Image of Object" need only "Gallery and Images", not "Image Galleries" Since it isn't a gallery like the "Gallery: Samwell Tarly" pages. - You will see ALL categories still here, so this change won't change too much. If you look at "" You will now see that only the character and episode Image Galleries should be there. This just organizes it better. I've made the chances to the upload image rules for the Wiki. Let me know if this was too confusing or if you have questions. :) Now then, back to editing. QueenBuffy35px-Pink crown.png 16:04, April 16, 2019 (UTC)

Individuals of uncertain fate

Why is Robb Starks army not stated deceased as the Boltons and Tyrells? It's not just speculation. It's stated in the series that everyone got butchered outside of the twins and they should be separated from Jon Snows army. Gotyadidnti (talk) 21:25, April 24, 2019 (UTC)Gotyadidnti

Then we need to change all Bolton and Tyrell men whose fates are nit explicitly shown or stated to "Individuals of Uncertain fate" too. Shaneymike (talk) 21:32, April 24, 2019 (UTC)
Check out Margeary's handmaiden, Tyrell guard (The Gift), Tyrell lady and all the servants and retainers of House Bolton then. I think this wiki should follow the "all men must die"-principle, but do as you want. Gotyadidnti (talk) 21:48, April 24, 2019 (UTC)gotyadidnti

Infobox changes

Who is a good admin/bureau here who knows infoboxes? Since the show is ending, I wanted to maybe make a sandbox and play around with an image of each character per season and have that season tab number at the top of the infobox. I have pics ready for Cersei 1-8 and Dany 1-8, just to see what it would look like. What do you think? I guess it wouldn't hurt to see what it would look like, so do you know who would know how to do something like that? Thanks! :) QueenBuffy35px-Pink crown.png 06:11, April 28, 2019 (UTC)

Hmm, that sounds like something Greater Good or Shield would have some expertise in. I would probably ask them. Shaneymike (talk) 09:48, April 28, 2019 (UTC)

Tabbers above infoboxes

Let me know what you think. I've done it here in my sandbox: SANDBOX INFOBOX TAB IDEA. Thanks! QueenBuffy35px-Pink crown.png 15:16, April 28, 2019 (UTC)

"We do not include unborn children in infoboxes"

Then check Cersei and Jaime's page.
{{SUBST:User:DivineTedrius/Sig}} 03:31, May 6, 2019 (UTC)

Those are overlooked mistakes. --Potsk (talk) 03:47, May 6, 2019 (UTC)


Hi, could you add this to the Missandei page? Thanks

| Death= 305 AC in King's Landing
Decapitated by Ser Gregor Clegane on the orders of Cersei Lannister

ABCXYZ12345678 (talk) 12:11, May 6, 2019 (UTC)

Infos needed

Hi! I'm Hypsoline from the Fandom Staff. Can I talk to you on Discord (my user ID is Hypsoline#7530) if you're using it or send you an email at the address associated with your Fandom account? Let me know! :) Hypsoline (talk) 15:57, May 7, 2019 (UTC)

I know you don't know me because I used to work for the French communities. But I am a Community Manager for the TV/Movies vertical now. I need to contact the GoT wiki administration regarding your great work on the wiki. I already contacted others with more details via email :) Hypsoline (talk) 12:22, May 8, 2019 (UTC)
Ok, you can send me an email if you want. Shaneymike (talk) 15:43, May 8, 2019 (UTC)

House Targaryen Navbox

With your permission, I'd like to update some details on the Targaryen Navbox to current events. StarkMay (talk) 19:59, May 18, 2019 (UTC)

Fandom Wiki Manager

Hello Shaneymike! My name is HighJewElfKing, and I'm the Fandom Wiki Manager for Game Of Thrones Wiki. My job is to help the community and be a liaison to full-time Fandom staff. If you ever got a question or issue relating to the wiki, editing, etc., please contact me on my message wall and I'll do my best to help you out! :) (I’m also a huge GOT fan) HighJewElfKing (talk) 04:31, May 19, 2019 (UTC)

Hi Shaneymike, it's Hypsoline (Elsa) again. As you may already know, our Community Org is changing. From now on our team will focus even more on building closer relationships with the communities, admins, and users.
I together with our Wiki Manager HighJewElfKing will help you solve any issues on this wiki and to make this community even more successful.
We are here to support you and help make this community thrive. If you need anything, feel free to contact me or our Wiki Manager directly at any time. And just so you know, Wiki Managers might be more available than me on weekends.
Please let me know if you have any questions and I hope to hear back from you soon :) Hypsoline (talk) 14:16, May 23, 2019 (UTC)

On your petty threats

Amusing as it was to read, I don't see the reason you would threaten me with a block, considering I'm the one who actually bothered to edit in the correct information on that article. Did you even check the edits? As far as I'm concerned, anyone who edits an article to remove valid information is an idiot, plain and simple. Either that or a vandal; take your pick. Either way, I was completely in the right there and you goofed massively by threatening me. Your superiors will definitely be notified, as you are in dire need of an attitude adjustment. So long.  NegatronX (talk) 20:40, May 19, 2019 (UTC)

House Stark of King's Landing

Was gonna make this page but I'm unsure. Since Bran and Sansa are equals as monarchs and heads of their own respective households, is Bran head of a new "House Stark of King's Landing" now? --Potsk (talk) 02:36, May 20, 2019 (UTC)

It's also been stated that Bran can't have children, so it just be him anyways. Plus, the new system is devised for an elected monarch instead of hereditary, so would there even be a new house created? TheUnknown285 (talk) 02:42, May 20, 2019 (UTC)
Davos suggested that Grey Worm should found his own house, so it's not that far of a stretch. --Potsk (talk) 02:44, May 20, 2019 (UTC)
Since the new system is devised for an elected monarch, like Unknown said, I wouldn't make a House Stark of King's Landing page, but I'll see what the other admins say. Shaneymike (talk) 04:07, May 20, 2019 (UTC)

House Stark as the Royal House

I'm reposting here from the talk page of House Stark:

Isn't House Stark the royal house of both the six kingdoms and the kingdom of the North now? Doesn't it reside both in the north and in king's landing? A user said that now the allegiance of the great houses goes to the title of "King of the andals.." and not to the house, but the allegiance has always gone to the specific ruling house. Even if Bran was chosen by a council and did not inherit the title, he is officially stylized as "brandon of house stark" and house stark is officially the house that rules the six kingdoms, so I don't see why the allegiance shouldn't go to the house. Can you clear this up? Thanks. LaLupa (talk) 21:04, May 20, 2019 (UTC)LaLupa

Yeah, I'm still trying to make sense of that myself. Sansa has declared the North an independent Kingdom once again under House Stark. Meanwhile, her brother has agreed to serve as the first elected monarch of the other six kingdoms. Right now, I'm inclined to say no House Stark shouldn't be considered the royal house. Even though a Stark has accepted the position as king of the south, he's just one member. It's confusing, I know. Hopefully, we can all make some sense of it through dialouge. Shaneymike (talk) 21:54, May 20, 2019 (UTC)
Just wanted to pipe in here and add my thoughts that I left on User:Moonracer's talk page - basically, that because the King is now a chosen/elected position, calling House Stark the "royal house" would be inaccurate (even if Bran Stark is king right now), or at the very least misleading, since that also implies it to be a dynasty (in my view). I commented on Moonracer's talk page since I wasn't really sure where else to bring up this discussion, and I figured it would be better to ask one administrator rather than spam each and every one's talk pages. I agree that it is definitely confusing and unclear though - these are just my thoughts on the matter. Reddyredcp (talk) 22:06, May 20, 2019 (UTC)
Yeah, since the monarch is now elected and the lords of Westeros appear to have the power to remove and replace him or her at any time if they see fit, calling said monarch's birth house the royal one would be misleading, especially if said monarch's birth house rules its domain independently. Shaneymike (talk) 22:37, May 20, 2019 (UTC)

I understand that the King/Queen is now elected, but if this means his/her house is not the royal house than it means the concept/title of royal house itself does not exist anymore and I don't think that's the case here. Otherwise there would be no point in adding the house of the king to its title ("Brandon of the House Stark"). The lords of westeros may have the power to remove the ruler but as long as he rules he's effictively a monarch like all he previous ones, he holds the same powers. Also, it was never stated that the lords could in case strip him of power, but just that once he dies, they have the faculty to elect a new monarch. Defining House Stark the Royal House does not mean (in my opinion), that we are saying there is now a Stark dynasty, of King and Queens and rulers of the seven/six kingdoms, it simply states House Stark is currently in control of the Crown, as they are. The Red Keep is officially under the control of House Stark, and so is King's Landing. Otherwise, as I said, the concept itself of a Royal house (for the six kingdoms) should be erased and that's not what is happening. There is only a change in the way a ruler is elected, not in the title or power he and therefore his house acquire, because that remains the same. It just seems unlogical to me saying that the house of the King (even if just for the duration of his rule) is not the royal house. Just adding my cents, but I think that for as long as he rules, it's fair to say his is the House that holds the power. Also, sorry, adding another thing: if House Stark is not considered the royal house then Bran should have just been called "ruler of the six kingdoms" or "lord of the six kingdoms", instead his title is still "King", which means his house simply cannot be put on the same level as all the other houses over which he rules. LaLupa (talk) 23:09, May 20, 2019 (UTC)LaLupa


Hey, I saw you also got a message from 'Hypsoline' She asked me for my name and address etc, I gave her my POBox. What'd you do??--~ Lorisa! (talk) 02:55, May 21, 2019 (UTC)

I gave her my address. My t-shirt arrived just a few days ago. :) Shaneymike (talk) 02:58, May 21, 2019 (UTC)


Hello Shaneymike, can you delete Martell (Prince of Dorne) redirect real quick? Another user had created it by moving the Unnamed Prince of Dorne to it. However, the house of the new prince is never mentioned os claiming he is a Martell is pure speculation as it is likely that another family can have taken power even if there is a cadet brance of House Martell. I have redirecte it to House Martell. Please delete the redirect. Thanks. MatthewOne (talk) 03:03, May 21, 2019 (UTC)

Gotcha covered, MatthewOne. Shaneymike (talk) 03:12, May 21, 2019 (UTC)
Thank you. MatthewOne (talk) 03:16, May 21, 2019 (UTC)


The navboxes seem outdated and I was wondering if I could update them? I'm asking you because QueenBuffy told me not to edit templates, but she has locked her talk page.


01:20, May 22, 2019 (UTC)

Hm, well, I can't really override Buffy seeing as how she's a bureaucrat. Could you give me an example? Shaneymike (talk) 01:36, May 22, 2019 (UTC)

  • House Targaryen's navbox lists Danny as the lord, it also doesn't have {}. The Small Council navbox says Hand of the Queen and lists Qyburn as the holder.

01:39, May 22, 2019 (UTC)

Also, the template box of House Lannister needs to be corrected. Both Jaime and Cersei are dead now, which makes Tyrion the lawful head of the family now.NarendraMartosudarmo (talk) 12:40, May 22, 2019 (UTC)

  • With the night's watch box, Samwell is still listed as currently being apart of the watch. Also why is Jon Snow listed as the leader of the Night watch on the Night watch page but not on the navbox. With the great ouse Navbox shouldn't House Targaryen be moved from formerly to extinct. Why is Jon Snow listed as the warden of the north? Also on his page shouldn't Daenerys Targaryen where it lists the loves be in {}?

12:48, May 22, 2019 (UTC)

Also, the Hand of the King section in the Small Council Navbox does not include Kevan Lannister’s name between Qyburn’s and Tywin Lannister’s. Kevan served as Tommen’s Hand until his death. NarendraMartosudarmo (talk) 01:38, May 23, 2019 (UTC)

The Small council navbox was locked merely over an editing dispute. I think it will be safe to at least temporarily unlock it. MatthewOne (talk) 01:42, May 23, 2019 (UTC)

There are only two minor things that need to be fixed.

The first is in the Small Council navbox where there are appear to be two dots between Eddard Stark and Tywin Lannister’s names.

The second is in the House Lannister navbox. Qyburn and Gregor Clegane’s names need to be in brackets since they are both dead now.

NarendraMartosudarmo (talk) 03:09, May 23, 2019 (UTC)

  • Apparently non-admins can't edit templates: "Yeah stuff like that/changes like that are usually talked about amongst admins/bureaucrats. We consider those bigger changes to the overall look of the Wiki page itself. That's why we don't let editors change those things, otherwise we'd have all kinds of changes to templates." - QueenBuffy35px-Pink crown 18:57, April 12, 2019 (UTC). -

10:25, May 23, 2019 (UTC)

Where is Jacks?

Hello. Just watched The Old Gods and the New, but where is the character Jacks in Robb's Camp? He is listed under the Characters tab... ----Braeden32

I'll have to rewatch that episode myself. Shaneymike (talk) 09:36, May 23, 2019 (UTC)
I’m not sure if he appears in the episode, but I think he stops appearing after the Red Wedding which would suggest he died when the massacre occurred. This would apply to the majority of troops from Robbs camp that haven’t reappeared after the wedding. Edenboy6 (talk) 14:27, May 23, 2019 (UTC)

Thanks. He is definitely in the next episode, but I was just curious as to if he was featured in The Old Gods and the New because he is listed under the characters tab. ----Braeden32


I recently edited Sansa and Daenerys' pages to include some of the skills they have acquired over the years and I was wondering why they were taken down?

I hope I didn't break a rule or policy but I think each character with mentionable skills should be recognized. I apologize. 

Tennislucky24 (talk) 03:05, May 27, 2019 (UTC)tennislucky24

I thought the whole abilities section on Sansa's page was rather repetitive as a lot of what was in it was already covered in the personality section. Plus I think there should only be an abilities section for characters with special powers like warging or skills that only a select few possess i.e. Faceless Men. Furthermore, you don't want to use Youtube videos as references. Shaneymike (talk) 03:17, May 27, 2019 (UTC)

High Septon

I'm currently doing a bunch of edits to make sure the characters listed in the "Appearances -> First" section on episode wiki pages matches the "First seen" information on character wiki pages.

According to the High Septon (Before the riot of King's Landing) entry this character's first appearance was in Baelor, not The Old Gods & The New. Please stop reverting my edits that reflect this.

Arya/Gendry Edit War

We got a vandal. User:Skylar1999. He keeps reinserting “Soulmates” in the Arya Stark and Gendry Baratheon page, three times now plus ignoring warnings. This wasn’t the first time he’s done this either, as there was a similar incident back in May. Moonracer has also been notified. Openminds (talk) 21:00, June 18, 2019 (UTC)

I've spoken to Sylar. I'm not going to block him or her just yet as I think calling what they were doing "vandalism" is a little extreme. I've locked the article for the next 24 hours. If Skylar ignores my warning, I will definitely take punitive actions. Shaneymike (talk) 21:45, June 18, 2019 (UTC)

House Kettleblack article


What should be done with the article? I do not remember that any Kettleblack ever appeared or was mentioned in the show, but there is an article of Osmund Kettleblack. Moonracer (talk) 06:41, June 24, 2019 (UTC)

I would say keep it for now, although it does need a major cleanup. Shaneymike (talk) 09:43, June 24, 2019 (UTC)
The Osmund Kettleblack article is based on the assumption that Osmund is among the seven kingsguard when they appear all at once. And that's fine (the same is done with other unnamed characters), but no one has referred to him or any other Kettleblack by name, so also creating an article for House Kettleblack is a little far in my opinion. Plus the article is entirely plagiarized from AWOIAF (only difference being he copied bits and pieces, and changed "semi-canon source" to "records"), a possibly copyrighted image included. --Potsk (talk) 13:06, June 24, 2019 (UTC)
So it is. Thank you, Potsk. I'll take care of it. Shaneymike (talk) 14:04, June 24, 2019 (UTC)

Official Fandom Discord

Hey Shaneymike, Charlie from Fandom here with more good news to bring you! We announced the other day the official Fandom Discord server! You can join here and see the blog post for more information here. The Discord server was made to give you and your communities more support on Fandom so we hope to see you there! HighJewElfKing (talk) 18:54, July 11, 2019 (UTC)

Oathkeeper (sword)

Hey there,

To preface, all articles on this wiki that share their name with an episode of the series are simply labelled as they are, without the need of a distinction in brackets, evidenced by "Second Sons", "High Sparrow", "Sons of the Harpy", "The Gift", "Battle of the Bastards", "Beyond the Wall", and "Winterfell". "Oathkeeper (sword)" is one of two exceptions among approximately twelve other pages in terms of naming convention, and I believe that, for the sake of consistency, it should be renamed to just "Oathkeeper". The potential renaming of this page will have an impact on links, though I am prepared to undertake the adjustment of the links across the entire wiki.

Let me know what you think. — Darth Dracarys (talk) 06:30, July 17, 2019 (UTC)


Can we unlock this? I think it's safe. Thanks

ABCXYZ12345678 - 2nd Account (talk) 23:33, July 19, 2019 (UTC)

Done. Shaneymike (talk) 23:42, July 19, 2019 (UTC)

Hey, can you unlock Ramsay Bolton? He's not a sociopath, because a sociopath would mean he has some actual protectiveness and attachment, and he has nothing if the sort. Could you please do it? Thanks! --New Beginning 1234567 (talk) 13:50, July 20, 2019 (UTC)

Actually Ramsay does have some protectiveness and attachment. He murdered his father and half-brother to secure his position as head of House Bolton. If that doesn't qualify as protectiveness or attachment, I don't know what does. And no, I'm not unlocking the article because this has been an ongoing issue for some time now, and I'm not going to be held responsible for reopening it. Sorry. Shaneymike (talk) 14:05, July 20, 2019 (UTC)

Trivia Quizzes Button

Hello, Charlie from Fandom here, I wanted to let you know that since your wiki is part of the trivia quizzes beta, we now have an easier way of creating them. You can find it (the create quiz button) on the right-hand side of the discussions text bar. HighJewElfKing (talk) 21:25, July 25, 2019 (UTC)

House Rathunter

Why did you deleted my pages

First off, please remember to include a headline and your signature when leaving a message on someone's talk page. To answer your question, this is not the place for fan fiction. Shaneymike (talk) 23:31, August 12, 2019 (UTC)

Sir, House Rathunter is not a fan fiction, it's the main house from the game to be published in a few months. It's like House Forrester from Telltale's Game of Thrones. Please let me publish informations about the game in wiki. For more information about the game;

That is a fan game... Gamejolt hosts fan games and other small projects. Even if it was officially licensed, something like "Fred Rathunter" would be just as non-canon as "Chris" from that browser game. --Potsk (talk) 17:28, August 13, 2019 (UTC)

House Rathunter

Sir, I warn you for the first and last time. If you delete my House Rathunter page once more. You will regret this.

Updates From Fandom: Analytics

Hello Shaneymike, I wanted to give you some updates from Fandom! First up, we recently introduced a new feature on Fandom! Ever wanted to know what browser your readers are using? Or perhaps where your readers are from? Now you can with our new analytics feature! What I find interesting from your wikis analytics is your most searched term which is "Jon Snow"! Your top viewed page is Daenerys Targaryen, so it's a good idea to keep that page updated! You can access analytics on the Special:Analytics page. If you'd like to do some more reading on this feature, we have a great Blog Post and Help page to help you get started with this feature! Feel free to also ask away and share your cool findings in our analytics channel on our Official Fandom/Gamepedia Discord Server! You can also let me know if you have any questions.

Updates from Fandom: Editor Rewards

We also recently introduced a new editor rewards program! This program has given out everything from free movie tickets, event passes, Fandom swag and more! If you'd like to find out more information about this awesome program or ask questions about the editor rewards program, I recommend you check out this blog post! Let me know if I can answer any questions you may have on either of these great announcements! HighJewElfKing (talk) 17:51, September 11, 2019 (UTC)

A New Year for Fandom

Hey Shaneymike!

I’m contacting you, because we want to get off on the right foot the year and after all the feedback received at Community Connect, we want to know more about the current status of the communities. First step is to analyze the previous year, so we would like to hear from you about 2019. It’s so important for us to know what’s your opinion about the work that we did in 2019. It has been a year of a lot of changes and we would like to continue working in the right direction and find solutions to any problem detected by you in the last year.

We know that you could have questions about the UCP too, please feel free to ask me anything about it and I will share your concerns, comments and questions with the other Community Managers in order to obtain an answer as soon as possible.

Finally, also I would like to invite you to rate the last year in Fandom from 1 to 5, meaning 1 as "definitely not good" and 5 like "this has been a fantastic year!". It would be super helpful for our work.

BTW, if you haven’t joined us on Discord, feel free to do it, we plan to run some new projects there and use it as platform to communicate important things to TV/Movies communities, so you will be welcome to our server!

And like I said, let me know if you have any question. I will be happy to help you. Hypsoline (talk) 10:50, February 13, 2020 (UTC)

Posting video clips

Hi Shaneymike,

I was recently asked whether there was any policy about posting videos in the wikipedia. I searched the forums, including the "Assessing/coordinating Fandom videos and articles on GoTWiki" thread, but could not find any guidelines - whether it is premitted to post video, and what the terms are. Is there such policy? Moonracer (talk) 06:46, April 13, 2020 (UTC)

I am not aware of any such policy. For a while there was a video on a lot of the major articles that would play every time someone went to it, but a lot of people, myself included, found that annoying. I do recall seeing videos on other wiki that only play when users press play. Shaneymike (talk) 09:34, April 13, 2020 (UTC)

Banning of Dave chaves

Hello, a user named Dave chaves has been banned on here, can you help? We've made a thread about it on central, the details are there. Thank you!

Daenerys Targaryen and her family

why was my edits on khalessi and her family's removed. All I did was add canon info to them her brothers were her dragons namesake. She even said that out loud to Jon snow. And even though the baby was stillborn she was Rhaegos mother.

First of all, please remember to sign your messages. Aside from the glaring grammatical errors, specifically spacing, your edits were rather superfluous and redundant. Shaneymike (talk) 22:14, June 29, 2020 (UTC)

New Wiki Manager

Hi there! I'm Kylara, and I'll be your Wiki Manager for Game of Thrones Wiki, picking up from your previous wiki manager.

How's everything going? The wiki looks pretty solid, but if you ever have any questions, let me know! I'm here to help!

KylaraE (talk) 21:58, July 6, 2020 (UTC)

Discussions administrator

Hi Shaneymike. Would you have any objections to Reverb frost being appointed as the designated administrator on the Discussions Board? He is a trusted user who is already a global Dboard moderator and frequently works with FANDOM staff. Let me know your thoughts on this. - Xanderen signature.png 13:23, July 9, 2020 (UTC)

Hi Xanderen. I do not have any objections to Reverb Frost's appointment as a Discussions moderator. By all accounts, he seems well-qualified for the role. Shaneymike (talk) 13:52, July 9, 2020 (UTC)

Promotion to bureaucrat

Hi Shaneymike. At Gonzalo84's request, I have promoted you and Xanderen to bureaucrat. – KylaraE (talk) 01:47, July 25, 2020 (UTC)

I am honored and humbled. Thank you both very much. Shaneymike (talk) 11:14, July 25, 2020 (UTC)

TabView Removal

Hi again, Shaneymike, how are things going?

The TabView feature is being deprecated, and per best practices, tabs are generally discouraged. So we're going around to help remove them in place of better practices.

It looks like there's just one page that's currently using TabView:

There are a few ways to clear this up, but I'm not sure they're needed. The sections seem to be redundant, since there's already a Current Great Houses section above that links to the great houses, and same for the Former Great Houses. It might be best if the sections using TabView are just deleted.

Do you mind if I go ahead and get the TabView usage cleared up and remove those sections?

– KylaraE  (talk) 21:33, September 6, 2020 (UTC)

Hi Kylara. Yeah, by all means, go ahead and remove those sections. Shaneymike (talk) 00:53, September 7, 2020 (UTC)

House of the Dragon

Now that we're starting to get casting announcements for House of the Dragon I think we should make some decisions about how to format articles on these characters going forward.

Personally, I feel we shouldn't spoil future events and character fates that have been revealed in Martin's writings, just as we didn't spoil the books when Game of Thrones was airing. Specifically regarding the "In the books" sections - they would be kept concise and general until certain key moments had passed (the Red Wedding, for example) at which point we would expand them and elaborate further.

Of course, most people will be aware that this show takes place centuries before GoT, and that all these people are dead in the current timeline... However casual fans shouldn't come on here and immediately have the fate of their favourite characters spoiled seven seasons early (SHE GETS EATEN BY A DRAGON!). We can achieve by this by dividing the "vital status" categories into subsets, just as we did with the various different cast members - characters from HotD will be treated as alive in their timeline until they die on screen, and articles on confirmed characters would be scaled back until such time when it's appropriate to update.

This I think, would be the simplest, cleanest way of going forward, and. This will be the fairest to all fans, including those who are less familiar with the world of Ice and Fire.

What do you think? - Xanderen signature.png 09:24, October 14, 2020 (UTC)

I agree. Assuming that the show doesn't differentiate too much from the books and the Histories & Lore, we should not spoil their rates for the casual viewer. We should treat these characters as "alive" in their timeline until they are shown to be killed off, especially since some of these potential characters' fates, like Blood and Cheese, are never revealed in either the books or Histories and Lore. Shaneymike (talk) 09:40, October 14, 2020 (UTC)

UCP migration upcoming

Hey again! As you've probably noticed from the top banner on the wiki, Game of Thrones Wiki will be migrated to the Unified Community Platform soon. I'll be checking in to ensure the migration goes smoothly. If there are any issues after the migration, please let me know and we can get it resolved. So far the migrations have been pretty smooth with some cleanup.

Let me know if you have any questions!

How's everything else been going around here?

– KylaraE  (talk) 21:53, October 17, 2020 (UTC)

Hey again, following up now that the wiki has migrated. Do you have any questions or feedback? Let me know how things are going and I can look into any issues.
Also noticed that "Wikia" is used a few times on the main page. Would it be all right if I updated that to "Wiki"?
– KylaraE  (talk) 21:41, 26 October 2020 (UTC)
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