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​House Lannister family tree

​Willem and Martyn are actually the great-grandsons of Lord Tytos' brother (not the grandsons), could you please fix the family tree? And keep in mind that these unnamed Lannisters are not "lords".Gonzalo84 (talk) 04:54, April 15, 2013 (UTC)

As I explained in the episode notes, Robb was exaggerating for dramatic effect; the boys are actually Kevan's younger sons.--The Dragon Demands (talk) 04:59, April 15, 2013 (UTC)

House infoboxes

Bastards are not "household" they are part of the family if acknowledged. See how the books list the families.---Gonzalo84 (talk) 09:02, May 9, 2013 (UTC)


"Sarsfield" not "Saucefield". When they mention a new character name you should check it against the book records in A Wiki Of Ice and Fire, or, as I use HBO Go, turn on the subtitles for spelling.--The Dragon Demands (talk) 23:33, June 11, 2013 (UTC)

"Line of Succession"

The line of succession for the King of the Andals and the First Men is in dispute and not very clear, though the "Royal Inheritance" section on the society page does explain this. As for the King of the Iron Islands, as I explained in a long post for the "In the books" section, the ironborn haven't come up with a new succession system; and within the narrative of the books, the Greyjoys argue amongst themselves who Balon's heir is. Yara is older than Theon but is a woman, while Balon's younger brothers Euron and Victarion also want in on the action - Euron is older than Victarion but has been exiled from the islands for his crimes, while Victarion is commander of the Iron Fleet.--The Dragon Demands (talk) 00:12, June 12, 2013 (UTC)

Vote for new Bureaucrats

The Wikia Staff said that even though Werthead is stepping down voluntarily, we need to have an open vote to determine who will now be promoted to Bureaucrat status. Please check it out: --The Dragon Demands (talk) 20:38, October 13, 2014 (UTC)

Census data

Hello, I'm trying to get some census data about our editors:

Have you read the books? If not, do you plan to read them eventually? If you are reading them, did you already start reading them before the TV series started, or did you start after the TV show began? If after they began, have you: finished yet? still trying to finish? Or, you're intentionally only reading one book at a time to match the pace of the TV series? (the last of which is really not a good idea because a given TV season will often pull a chapter or two from the next book, i.e. Jaime and Brienne at the end of Season 2 were the start of book 3).

Are you male, female, more complex description? I kind of assumed male but you don't talk about yourself much.

What part of the world do you hail from? (It helps to know what airing dates everyone is working with, USA vs UK vs Australia, etc.) If you don't want to say a specific city just give a state/province, or just a country (if United Kingdom might help to specify what sub-region, England/Scotland/Wales/Northern Ireland).

Thank you.

--The Dragon Demands (talk) 23:39, October 24, 2014 (UTC)

Starring cast appearances

Hi, I retitled this page "Starring cast appearances" to make it more clear.

Moreover I want to deleted these older subpages to consolidate:

(one for each of the four seasons, change the 4 to a 1, 2, 3 in the link)

Please take what info you need from them and tell me when it's okay to delete them.

Also, I've added "Starring cast appearances" to the top nav bar, under the "Production" tab, and under the "Production" subgroup list.--The Dragon Demands (talk) 00:37, March 26, 2015 (UTC)

Please read this:

This needs help.

Simplifying the opening intro paragraphs. "Major" character was subjective (i.e. Loras) - unfortunately even if we made a list we all voted on of "important non-starring cast members who are more than a recurring minor character" editors would have no way of being informed about this.

So we need to change the descriptions to be a bare-bones:

"Arya is a major character played by starring cast member Maisie Williams"

"Loras is a recurring character played by Finn Jones"

"Lannister Soldier #2 is a character played by John Smith"


We were wasting too much time arguing over the finer points.

Keep the descriptions of people who got promoted to a minimum, i.e. "Ramsay Snow is a major character. He started as a recurring character in Season 3 but became a Starring cast member in Season 4, etc."

"Is" means "now", contemporary to airdate. Gwendoline Christie "is" a starring cast member, even though she wasn't in Season 1, and wasn't starring in Season 2.

--The Dragon Demands (talk) 00:42, March 26, 2015 (UTC)

Selected guest stars revision

Hi. I've re-adjusted the selected guest stars page to the way it was before, I thought I should let you know. The selected guest starring section is specifically meant to be arranged by the nr. of episode a recurring cast member features in. The location/credit order, which is used by the regular wiki, is confusing and illogical due to the fact that:

(A) the credit order changes from episode to episode,

(B) the location of a character when he/she first appears does not really mean anything, nor is it helpful due to the fact that the character can spend the entirity of a season in a different locale, and

(C) from a production standpoint/behind the scenes standpoint like the cast page, the region in which a character appears is completely unimportant. 

I think the current version makes by far the most sense in this respect, Please let me know if/why you disagree. Kitfistofan93 (talk) 17:39, May 24, 2015 (UTC)

Mass deletion

Please stop deleting large amounts of information from articles. They're more than just episode recaps and casting information.--The Dragon Demands (talk) 13:45, June 12, 2016 (UTC)

The "Bastard Letter" and "Ellaria's Coup in Dorne" articles are admittedly half-finished, yes they are major items listed on my personal "to do" list to sit down and heavily refine. You were right to raise this issue. We're in a time crunch in these last two weeks of the season but I assure you this is a priority and in their current form they're what could be put in on short notice. Work will proceed on these. Even I wasn't "happy" with them. :) --The Dragon Demands (talk) 14:03, June 12, 2016 (UTC)

I've been trying to condense articles as much as I can - I know you wrote many of them, but to be honest they tend to be overlong and get way off topic from the subject of the article. The tone also gets a little too...informal? Not sure how to put it, but sometimes you (or whoever) seem to get a little passive-aggressive talking about certain book changes. I appreciate that they're "rough drafts" but the bastard letter article is a perfect example:
  • Two enormous wall-of-text sections that ultimately restate the same points
  • A lengthy digression about how much screen time was spent on Dorne
  • Another long section speculating on supposed time constraints and what the writers could/should have done differently
This is such a complex series, it's hard enough to be concise as it is. All of the above is tangential to the point of the article - the letter itself, how it enters the story, and how (as briefly as possible) it differs from the book version. I feel that 90% of the time you can get the key points across in half as much text, which is what I've been trying to do. As for title sequence - I'm not sure what was in the old version that's not in mine? Pretty sure I addressed all the "rules" and whatnot. Not trying to put you down - just explaining my thought process. --Pyramidhead (talk) 15:39, June 12, 2016 (UTC)

In their current form the Bastard Letter and Coup in Dorne articles are indeed rough drafts and not very good. I do intend to rein them in. Check back soon when I go down the "Season 6 To-Do list".--The Dragon Demands (talk) 02:42, June 14, 2016 (UTC)


Oh thank god. Thanks for starting to put collapsibles into articles, sometimes the lists get very long but I didn't know what the best collapsible lists were. I will start incorporating this into a lot of stuff, thank you.--The Dragon Demands (talk) 13:50, June 12, 2016 (UTC)

No problem! :) --Pyramidhead (talk) 15:39, June 12, 2016 (UTC)
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