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  • So is Jon King of the Vale as well? The Valemen joined in proclaiming Jon King, which reminded me of the Riverlords bowing to Robb's kingship. Is Jon's kingdom now a fusion of the Northern and Vale lands?

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    • No, more likely that they reconise him as King in The North, and will back his claim to the North. To make him their king will insult their lord's family.

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    • According to some of the pages, House Arryn has become a vassal of the King in the North and the Valen itself is now part of the Kingdom of the North.

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    • There's an ongoing discussion of the head/lord of House Stark. Here's the thread link: http://gameofthrones.wikia.com/wiki/Thread:47132#16. Add some input, there's a poll too for those who love voting. Vote, please.

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    • Perception1 wrote:
      According to some of the pages, House Arryn has become a vassal of the King in the North and the Valen itself is now part of the Kingdom of the North.


      The Vale of Arryn have allied with the North. They're not vassals. And since it was the Knights of the Vale who saved the Stark army at the battle of the bastards, it's pretty laughable to suggest that they pledge themselves to the Starks as vassals.

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    • Littlefinger said he declared for house stark so chances are that means the vale is legally under control of the north since LF is Lord until either Robin dies and whoever is his heir takes over, or Robin comes of age. The north also owns harrenhal as littlefinger is Lord of harrenhal.

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    • 90.201.44.221 wrote:
      Littlefinger said he declared for house stark so chances are that means the vale is legally under control of the north since LF is Lord until either Robin dies and whoever is his heir takes over, or Robin comes of age. The north also owns harrenhal as littlefinger is Lord of harrenhal.


      Littlefinger has ALLIED with the North. That does not mean they're under the rule of House Stark. And Littlefinger is Lord Protector of the Vale, as Robin Arryn is still a minor. And even then, the Lord Paramountcy will likely go to Robin's closest blood-relations, rather than his step-father. And if anything the Lords of the Vale want to be an independent kingdom just like the North. Plus, they SAVED the Stark army from certain defeat at the hands of Ramsay Bolton and his allies. So technically, if the Vale of Arryn wanted to pull rank with the Northerners, then they currently have the numbers to do just that.

      And Littlefinger legally owns Harrenhal by the will of King Joffrey. Except he has no forces their to keep it, so it is effectively in the hands of either House Frey or House Tully, assuming Arya knew to free her uncle Edmure Tully after killing Walder Frey and his sons.

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