Talk: Rhaenyra Targaryen

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Why is Rhaenyra, along with other House of Dragon's characters, labeled as alive instead of deceased? Templar Monster Hunter (talk) 10:53, 25 April 2022 (UTC)

Because she is alive in House of the Dragon. — (talk) 15:38, 25 April 2022 (UTC)

Heraldry

I'm unsure whether the Velaryon heraldry should be used here, since Laenor is the one marrying in. What does everyone else think? — (talk) 05:17, 19 September 2022 (UTC)

I think it should be included. — Darth Dracarys (talk) 05:45, 19 September 2022 (UTC)

Same. AWoIaF do, at any rate. - 05:47, 19 September 2022 (UTC)

I feel compelled to share my disagreement. The standard, to my understanding, is that the consort marrying into the royal family receives the heraldry, and the person of the royal family does not receive their partner's. See: Robert Baratheon and Cersei Lannister. It seems to me the only real difference in this manner is that the genders are flipped: Rhaenyra is a woman and Laenor is a man. However, it is still fundamentally the same: as Robert is king and Cersei is queen consort, Rhaenyra is to be queen and Laenor her king consort. Furthermore, I don't think AWOIAF should inherently set precedent for this wiki. But I digress: if this is the consensus, then I think it's fine, and I'm open to trying to better understand how this is different beyond their genders being flipped and AWOIAF doing it too. Thanks. Reddyredcp (talk) 06:28, 19 September 2022 (UTC)

For the record, I'm the one who added it on AWOIAF, but I didn't give it that much thought at the time. — (talk) 06:44, 19 September 2022 (UTC)

Proposing new main image

— (talk) 07:00, 24 October 2022 (UTC)

Support. - 07:01, 24 October 2022 (UTC)

Support. — Darth Dracarys (talk) 07:03, 24 October 2022 (UTC)

Character "Personality" Section

Hello, I ask the opinion of the community for a change of the page, in the character "Personality" section.

"During her youth, Rhaenyra was in love with her friend Alicent, and a long series of small rejections by Alicent culminating in her marriage to Viserys made Rhaenyra increasingly insecure, fueling the division and jealousy between them."

--> This passage is confusing. The description of the situation is not correct or poorly explained. There is no romance between Rhaenyra and Alicent, only friendship. There was no "rejection" from Alicent. The description of this sentence is to be reviewed with proof of a real source. Apparently, it is almost word-for-word from the director Miguel Sapochnik in the companion book: Game of Thrones: House of the Dragon: Inside the Creation of a Targaryen Dynasty by Gina McIntyre.

If this information comes from the words of a director, I think it should be quoted. Many of the directors of the show have given their opinion on the relationships of the characters but it is not yet known which words are the most believable. The book will be published in hardcover format on January 31, 2023.

My opinion? Maybe we should wait before giving a more detailed description of Rhaenyra's personality. I suggest that we remove for now the description I quoted at the beginning of my post.

What are your opinions? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Topsydney (talk • contribs) 11:44, 21 January 2023 (UTC)

"The underlying theme is that Rhaenyra is actually in love with Alicent," Sapochnik says. "With Milly as young Rhaenyra, it was very much about seeing how she experiences this constant series of small rejections from Alicent. It greases the wheels of insecurity. For Alicent, the fact that she's an innocent who's quite conservative was the important thing to get across. These two girls are both inseparable, and there is a jealousy that exists between them, and a division."

This isn't just one of the directors offering their own interpretation, this is one of the showrunners explaining what he and the rest of the team intended to get across. It doesn't matter if you personally don't see it; to quote Ryan Condal: "Yeah, please explain to me and George who [x] is a character, everybody." — (talk) 12:49, 21 January 2023 (UTC)

Rhaenyra I Targaryen

While it’s already listed in her “Also known as” section, I have to ask: since Rhaenyra has been crowned, shouldn’t her page be titled “Rhaenyra I Targaryen”? —Preceding unsigned comment added by LordTracer (talk • contribs) 19:03, 7 June 2023 (UTC)

I don't know what the official policy or stance on this wiki is, if there is one. But given that she's technically a claimant to the throne, or at least the one disputing it, I personally don't think characters should be renamed to their monarchy name until/unless they're formally crowned the monarch. See pages like Stannis Baratheon or Renly Baratheon for instance. Reddyredcp (talk) 21:42, 7 June 2023 (UTC)

1 - It's not what Westeros.org does 2 - Technically considered a "claimant" by history 3 - There was never another Rhaenyra, before or since, crowned or uncrowned, so it's not as if we need it to differentiate her. 4 - It's less "clunky" and shows up on Google search better to just leave it as "Rhaenyra Targaryen". More practical.

--The Dragon Demands (talk) 22:25, 8 June 2023 (UTC)

New main image suggestion

Would anyone object if I changed the main image to the one above? I feel it's better suited for a profile, as it's forward facing, and her facial expression is more neutral. The colour palette is improved as well. - 10:05, 12 December 2023 (UTC)

Fine by me — (talk) 11:53, 12 December 2023 (UTC)

I'm sorry but, in my opinion at least, the new image has given the infobox a lower quality look and I believe it looks a bit cheap. I Was unaware of this suggestion being posted but if I had seen it before the image was changed I would've objected. I feel the previous image suits the page much nicer and looks much more appealing. Trident0101 (talk) 22:37, 21 December 2023 (GMT)

Personality edition

Why I'm not able to add some things about her personality such as her personal relationships and how it affects them to her personality? I mean, other characters of Game of Thrones such as Tyrion, Jaime, Ned, Robb or even Jon Snow have several paragraphs talking about their personal relationships as a part of their traits. I put how Rhaenyra is in her relationship with her father or with others such as Criston Cole and still my edits are denied. Even when I put how she is tolerant about Laenor's homosexuality, that says a lot about her, and even that was denied. So please, explain me why and how can I actually edit her personality. —Preceding unsigned comment added by NicoUC10 (talk • contribs) 20:50, 12 December 2023 (UTC)

Hello. I've looked at the history of the page and the reverting administrator did in fact provide an explanation for why your edits were removed. It appears that the primary reasons were the quality of English used, poor grammar, and a lack of citations. Please bear in mind that all edits to the wiki need to properly formatted, and contain references. Also, please remember to sign your talk-page posts. Hope this helps. - 10:08, 13 December 2023 (UTC)

Proposing revert to older image

I feel the infobox image should be reverted to this one as used previously. I personally feel that the current one feels out of place among the rest of the page and this one would suit it much better. Trident0101 (talk) 16:45, 30 January 2024 (UTC)

I disagree, and think the current image is the superior candidate. How do you feel that it is out of place? - 08:57, 31 January 2024 (UTC)

It genuinely feels like she is staring into my soul and my friend made the same comment when i sent him the picture. I get that promo pictures may be preferred but it comes at the stake of overall page aesthetic, as it is the first thing you see. It feels like i'm looking at an IMDb page for Rhaenyra Targaryen. Trident0101 (talk) 22:39, 14 February 2024 (UTC)

Well, it is a profile image... - 14:26, 10 March 2024 (UTC)

And the proposed image does show her profile... Trident0101 (talk) 11:14, 19 March 2024 (UTC)