Talk: Rhaena Targaryen

Rhaena + Nettles

How certain are we that Nettles and Rhaena are being condensed? Maybe the scene in episode 6 was just an introduction to Sheepstealer and Nettles will be revealed later in the show? Then again, I haven't heard a mention of Morning anywhere else in season 2 so maybe Rhaena will claim Sheepstealer instead. LordOfTheNeverThere (talk). 10:13, 22 July 2024 (UTC)

Like 95% certain. There's footage in one of the trailers where she appears to be claiming a dragon. There are leaks from sources that have usually been right. And now they're choosing to put both Rhaena and Sheepstealer in the Vale, have Jeyne be disappointed that she didn't bring a bigger dragon, then have Rhaena discover Sheepstealer, thus providing the plot device that finally makes Jeyne commit to Rhaenyra's cause. Rhaena's scene with Laena in season 1 episode 6 was obvious setup for this in retrospect. I would be very, very surprised if turns out this isn't where it's headed. — (talk) 10:26, 22 July 2024 (UTC)

I think so too. According to the book, Rhaena's role in the dance of the dragons is very minor (so is Morning), so maybe for that reason the producers decided to merge her show character with Nettles's book character. Moonracer (talk) 05:33, 28 July 2024 (UTC)

Princess

I noticed Rhaena's title of Princess was removed but it was explicitly said on screen and in front of Rhaenyra, who did not question it. So, why have it removed? Baela and Rhaena are daughters of the King Consort, and the step children of the Ruling Queen. They are members of the royal family, by blood and marriage. They are both Princess and Lady per the show canon and composition of this specific family. (The Baratheons and the Starks set their own rules). Those aren't titles that get confused. Kai200995 (talk) 15:54, 27 July 2024 (UTC)Kai200995

It's an error by the writer. WBD character list for season 2 lists "Phoebe Campbell as Lady Rhaena Targaryen." As for your argument, there's no basis in the canon that stepchildren get elevated based on the status of their stepparent. King Maegor had four stepsons through his wives Elinor Costayne and Jeyne Westerling but they weren't even deemed important enough by GRRM to be named. Step-relations mean far less in Westeros than in real life. — (talk) 16:56, 27 July 2024 (UTC)

As far as show canon, we know titles are dependent on the reign and ruler. Maegor (whose reign is not depicted in the show) could very well reserve prince/ss titles for his blood children and royal blood relatives, he was obsessed with heirs. Robb names his siblings prince/ss while Robert did not. In book canon, Rhaena and Baela are named princess and lady. They were referred to as princesses during the Civil War and the early part of the reign after (no spoilers) if I'm not mistaken. The princess title can only be due to their father being a King Consort to the Queen (unlike Elinor and Jeyne, Daemon is a royal by birth in addition to Consort) and later their proximity to the iron throne. GRRM is very particular and intentional with details, including titles. I see no problem waiting for another confirmation from the show, though. Kai200995 (talk) 20:34, 27 July 2024 (UTC)

I would also like to add the fact that Aeriana Targaryen, a Targaryen from before the Conquest, is erroneously referred by Rhaenyra as a 'Targaryen princess'. Mistakes like these are relatively common in both Game of Thrones and House of the Dragon and it would be a headache to figure out what parts of dialogue is the 'real canon' or not. (i.e. is Aeriana Targaryen a pre-Conquest Targ or a post-Conquest Targ? Or do we invoke Occam's razor and instead determine that there was a small, relatively harmless continuity error in the script?) LordOfTheNeverThere (talk) 20:44, 27 July 2024 (UTC)

Well unlike, Aeriana, the Princess title for Baela and Rhaena has validity and can be found in the source material. I'm content with the status quo regarding edit changes until there's further confirmation/consistency in the series. (I hear episode 7 is great!)21:14, 27 July 2024 (UTC)Kai200995 (talk)

They're referred to as princesses once in The World of Ice & Fire, in the segment about Aegon III's reign, and not at all in Fire & Blood. Probably an artifact from early writing that GRRM forgot to edit. — (talk) 21:24, 27 July 2024 (UTC)

It was even fixed in later editions, so they are always referred to as ladies now. The Sword of the Morning (talk) 06:32, 28 July 2024 (UTC)