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(this page is an extension of notes from the "House of the Dragon Season 1 Talk page")

-- The Dragon Demands (talk) 23:47, 25 March 2022 (UTC)

Episode 1

Near as I can tell, except for brief scenes at Harrenhal and Dragonstone, nearly all of the first episode seems to take place in King's Landing - but at all sorts of diverse locations in the city, from the Targaryen throne room in its prime to the slums of Flea Bottom to the tournament field outside the city gates.

Great Council of Harrenhal

  • The opening scene of the show is a flashback to the Great Council at Harrenhal in 101 AC. Old King Jaehaerys is definitely present (I've seen casting leaks but won't share them for fear of outing major spy sources - but suffice to say they were right about everyone else who was cast, even Baela and Rhaena actresses).
  • They show the result of the ballots. They don't have separate actors playing younger versions of Rhaenys, Viserys, or Daemon, apparently they'll use CGI to just de-age the main actors. We won’t see that much of the council, but later episodes will have characters repeatedly discuss what happened in dialogue; “but the precedent set by the Great Council!” etc.

Introducing Rhaenyra & Alicent at the Dragonpit

  • Next scene after this is Rhaenyra & Alicent meeting at the Dragonpit (we saw spy photos of this). Rhaenyra dismounts and pets Syrax, Alicent comes out of her wheelhouse, Lord Commander Harrold Westerling is nearby.
  • Rhaenyra & Alicent are actually very friendly at this point in time. They’re going to show how their relationship transforms over the course of the season. This specific scene seems to be after Jaehaerys dies (two years after the council) and everyone is coming to the capital for Viserys’s coronation.
  • The Weirwood tree seen in spy photos is actually the one in the Red Keep (which they didn't build for GoT). There's a scene in episode 1 of Rhaenyra and Alicent sitting under it studying history. The Weirwood isn't particularly special, just makes it look more book accurate.
  • Alicent and Rhaenyra are both stated to be the same age, and in episode 1 they're both 14 - but they age very quickly due to internal time skips (they can't legally show 14 year old fictional characters getting married). Similar to how Robert’s Rebellion was changed from 15 years before to 17 years before. This may have some ongoing ripple effects on the timeline as they age up not only Rhaenyra and Alicent but their children, though such changes are unavoidable. We’ll have to make sure they don’t lose track and start ignoring their internal timeline like Game of Thrones did. The actresses are both 18. It’s possible they’re not even 14 anymore by the end of episode

Coronation Tournament

  • The tournament seen in the teaser trailer is the one held in celebration of Viserys's coronation. It is simply held in King's Landing, not Horn Hill (but why were Tarly banners so prominent? maybe Tarly banners are on the other side)
  • Due to the complexity in filming (and safety), season one will only have this single, really big tournament scene - events that happened at other tournaments in the book have been moved to just being feasts (minor change). Game of Thrones often waved this aside, but a large-scale tournament re-creation with live horses is actually very complicated in terms of filming, logistics, and safety.
  • As with Game of Thrones Season 1, the tourney is an opportunity to do worldbuilding by showing off knights from many Houses across Westeros and their heraldry: Lannister, Stark, Tully, Baratheon, Darklyn, Lefford, Mallister, Tarly, Corbray, Bolton. Setting up some of them to appear in later seasons.
  • As in the book, Criston Cole defeats everyone – even Daemon – and is named to the Kingsguard.
  • While Daemon and Criston are fighting on foot in the teaser, that's just because they go through the full stages of a classic tournament fight as depicted in a medieval epic, and like The Last Duel: they started out with lances but Criston knocks Daemon off his horse, then they proceed to the melee phase.
  • The anti-Daemon people in the tournament crowd heckle him by shouting “Lord Flea Bottom”, as he’s head of the City Watch (they’re skipping over that he briefly served in two other council posts he didn’t like). “Captain Randyll Barrett”, seen on IMDb, isn’t a ship captain, but a captain of the Gold Cloaks serving under Daemon.
  • Alicent’s brother Gwayne Hightower appears during the tourney. “Otto’s youngest son” (the book never elaborated on the others). Criston beats Gwayne and wins Alicent’s personal favor – in the books this happened at the Blacks & Greens tourney of 111 AC, not the coronation tourney of 104 AC (they just condensed them together).

Flea Bottom and the Gold Cloaks

  • Unclear if this happens before or after the coronation tournament, but there's a prominent sequence in which Daemon "rallies the Gold Cloaks" and they go on a massive series of raids to clean up Flea Bottom. This will give quick exposition that Daemon found the city watch as a bunch of disorganized hired goons, with no training or equipment...but after he took charge, Daemon single-handedly created the modern "Gold Cloaks" as they'll later be known, turning them into essentially a small private army drilled and equipped like professional soldiers and serving under their own officers. This shows how dangerous and effective Daemon is (I wonder if they'll use this for commentary on "militarization of police", as it's supposed to play out like Daemon turned the lazy city guards into a private army, then goes on a mini-military campaign to clean up the worst elements of the slum districts). Most of this was filmed in Spain, because those are the on-location King's Landing city street sets (we saw a lot of spy photos of Gold Cloaks in their spiffy new armor).
  • Mysaria, across the run of season one, turns into the power broker controlling the criminal underworld in Flea Bottom. She's portrayed sympathetically, not some "Asian Dragon Lady" stereotype. She rose up from being a slave prostitute to criminal boss but this makes her look out for the weakest; the TV Tropes thing of "Neighborhood Friendly Gangsters" - she uses her money and influence to fund orphanages for the street children and to crack down on any brothel that beats its prostitutes, etc.

Queen Aemma Arryn

  • Viserys and his queen Aemma Arryn are depicted as having a mutual, loving relationship, like Ned & Catelyn Stark. She has impactful scenes with both Viserys and Rhaenyra.
  • Aemma has a scene where she’s in a bathtub heavily pregnant, while Viserys puts a hand to her belly and says he thinks it will be a boy. Dialogue explaining she’s had difficult pregnancies and miscarriages before (as in books), Aemma says this is the last time she’ll try for a baby, because the maesters said one more pregnancy could kill her. Even this one was risky.
  • The tournament happens at the same time as Aemma's difficult childbirth and death. It’s bloody and upsetting. They hold a joint funeral pyre for Aemma and her baby son Baelon who lived less than a day. Rhaenyra's dragon Syrax lights the funeral pyre.
  • Alicent Hightower's mother was never mentioned in the books - we assumed she was dead. It wasn’t even mentioned what House she was from. The TV show will clarify that she is already dead. In the TV show, after Aemma dies Otto says he misses his own wife, and Alicent consoles Rhaenyra in her grief by sharing that her own mother died.

Viserys’s succession crisis

  • Viserys is a relatively young king with no sons to be heir, so as in the books it's pointed out he’s expected to remarry EVENTUALLY. But before too long people start pushing their girls on him. Corlys Velaryon tries to push his daughter Laena as a political match, but she's only 12 years old - obviously they could wait until she was older, but even so, the age gap is so big that Viserys is uncomfortable with it (it seems they're emphasizing this so that Viserys's marriage to an 18 year old Alicent doesn't make him look like a creep, even though she's the same age as his daughter; he actually marries Alicent for her intelligence and personality, though she's also "the most comely maiden in the Seven Kingdoms"). Further emphasizes the rift between Viserys and the wealthy/powerful Velaryon family, how a marriage alliance could re-unite the two branches of House Targaryen.
  • Viserys is uneasy to rush into another marriage, but even more hesitant to name his brash younger brother Daemon as his heir (as he is the closest male relative). Keep in mind that under Andal law, a lord's daughter inherits AHEAD of his younger brother...BUT this was the exact principle that Rhaenys claimed meant she deserved the throne more than Viserys – a position which got rejected by a landslide vote at the Great Council of Harrenhal. Naming Rhaenyra as his heir ahead of his brother Daemon would make him look like a hypocrite. On the other hand, EVERYONE thinks Daemon is too much of a hothead to make a suitable king – the Velaryons, the Hightowers, even Viserys himself. He does love him as his brother, in a sibling rivalry kind of way, but he’s conflicted about actually naming him as heir to the throne.
  • The "heir for a day" drunken jape in Flea Bottom angers Viserys enough to tip him over the edge and decide to declare Rhaenyra his heir. Daemon didn't actually mock Baelon's death as such, but the rumor grew in the telling - the teaser shot of Viserys gripping the handle of Blackfyre is when he's informed the distorted version of it. And it's not just this one jape that makes Viserys decide this, Daemon has always been too wild, and on top of this the Hightowers are so against him being heir that at the time that they actually welcome naming Rhaenyra heir instead.
  • It's a big, weighty scene where Viserys brings Rhaenyra to Balerion's skull to inform her of his decision (these are the shots of Young Rhaenyra we see in the teaser, she looks stunned because she's just been told she's heir, and she's wearing black mourning clothes). Keep in mind that Viserys was actually the last rider of Balerion – when he was very old and could barely fly, but he knew Balerion when he was alive, it was still in living memory.
  • Daemon originally has a friendly relationship with Rhaenyra early in the episode, but after she's named the heir he gets angry and offended. He sulks off to Dragonstone to steal a dragon egg for Mysaria and their unborn baby (this is the opening shot of the teaser, when he's carrying a torch in a dark tunnel).
  • The throne room scene in the teaser trailer is NOT a dream, it's young Rhaenyra and Daemon talking in High Valyrian, and he gives her a Valyrian steel necklace.
  • Episode 1 ends with a big scene in the Iron Throne room, publicly proclaiming Rhaenyra the royal heir to a crowd of all the high lords, who them swear oaths to acknowledge her. Among them is "Rickard Stark", father of Cregan Stark (his father was actually named "Rickon" in the books because names repeat in dynasties, but apparently they changed it to avoid confusion). Also Boremund Baratheon, etc. - the fathers of characters who will be adults by the time of the Dance. Maybe they thought casual viewers would be confused or disappointed if someone named "Stark" didn't appear in the first episode - but fine, Cregan's father would logically be in the big scene of great lords swearing fealty to Rhaenyra.

The Targaryens’ prophetic dragon-dreams

  • Many Targaryens in the TV show have prophetic dragon-dreams like in the books. They’ll directly explain who Daenys the Dreamer was, and her prophetic dreams are how the Targaryens escaped the Doom of Valyria (while the animated Histories & Lore did explain this, the Doom was never explained in a live-action episode, nor Daenys ever mentioned by name).
  • Throughout the season they’re going to have some scenes prominently remarking on what Valyria was like, possibly laying groundwork for the proposed Doom of Valyria prequel (i.e. it will be exciting if they mention the leaked factions by name – Sphinxes, Young Dragons, Free Holders – which would confirm the leak was real).
  • After Aemma dies, Viserys in his grief asks Daemon if all this pain is somehow part of the gods’ plan, to which Daemon says that the gods either aren’t real, or are real but don’t care. Thinking on it, Viserys then brings up the story of Daenys the Dreamer, how her prophetic dreams saved their family from the Doom of Valyria: if the gods sent her prophetic dreams to save the Targaryens, then they must care, must have some greater plan even if we don’t fully comprehend it. Daemon scoffs and says Daenys just got lucky, she happened to have a bad dream that turned out to be true, but no one pays attention to all the bad dreams that don't. "Dreams didn't make us kings, dragons did" (line from the teaser trailer).
  • A major new subplot is going to be introduced in this TV show that wasn’t in the Fire & Blood book as such: Targaryen monarchs often have dragon-dreams, and Aegon the Conqueror himself was motivated to invade and unite the Seven Kingdoms of Westeros because he had one of these prophetic dreams. Aegon the First had a prophetic dream that the White Walkers would return at some point in the future, so the Targaryens needed to forge Westeros into a strong united front against them.
  • While not in the books as such, George R.R. Martin made a cryptic remark in an interview video for Fire & Blood that “some speculate that Aegon the Conqueror may have seen the return of the White Walkers coming in three centuries”. Strong indication that this leaked element is real. At the time we thought it was just Martin being speculative, now it seems he was referring to an unpublished idea that he was already thinking of working into the nascent Dance of the Dragons prequel show at the time. It’s also sort of an outgrowth of the prophecy by a woods-witch in the books that the Prince That Was Promised will be born to the line of Jaehaerys II and Shaera. Apparently the full prophecy Aegon I had is that “centuries from now, The Prince That Was Promised will be born from the Targaryen dynasty, who needs to be ruling a strong united Westeros to stop them.” So while this wasn’t mentioned in Fire & Blood…that’s an outline, and this seems a logical outgrowth of prior ideas.
  • In the scene at Balerion’s skull where Viserys reveals to Rhaenyra that he is naming her his heir, he also shares the story of Aegon the Conqueror’s prophetic dream (who was his grandfather’s grandfather). Subsequent monarchs didn’t have the same dream they passed it down verbally, a secret passed down only from each king to their designated heir.
  • Presumably this means Aegon the First told Aenys, possibly not his second son Maegor. Unclear if Aenys told Jaehaerys directly as he was a third son and small child when Aenys died – but he’d have told his first son Aegon the Uncrowned, and after Aenys died perhaps he told Rhaena, then Rhaena told Jaehaerys after he was crowned? Unclear. But Jaehaerys knew the secret, and probably told his first two sons at some point or another: Aemon (father of Rhaenys) and Baelon (father of Viserys and Daemon). It’s possible that Baelon never told Viserys the story directly, but Jaehaerys directly shared it with his grandson Viserys after the Great Council at Harrenhal (two years before he died). Unclear if he told Aemon before his untimely death, or if Aemon had the chance to tell Rhaenys (Aemon wasn’t even king yet). Uncertain if kings strictly only shared this secret prophecy with the one, designated heir apparent, or with a second son who might potentially inherit (did Aenys tell Jaehaerys directly?), but the idea is that this is a secret even within House Targaryen, it’s not something shared with a third or fourth daughter far down the line of succession (i.e. Jaehaerys wouldn’t have told Saera about it).
  • This running subplot of prophetic dragon-dreams will drive the actions of Viserys, and later Rhaenyra. Viserys himself had a different prophetic dream – described in dialogue but not shown – in which he saw his son wearing the crown of Aegon the Conqueror. We retroactively realize why, back when he was putting a hand on Aemma’s pregnant belly when she was in the bathtub, he felt so certain it must be a son (as she said she wouldn’t try to get pregnant again after that). This leaves Viserys deeply confused, and in part spurs his decision to remarry to produce a male heir (though also for the more pragmatic reason we already knew: he’s a young king, expected to remarry to produce a male heir who won’t be questioned, because the entire reason he was chosen as superior to Rhaenys’s claim is direct father-to-son succession). After Aemma’s death, Viserys has that big discussion with Daemon about whether the gods have a plan or not, leading Viserys to conclude that the prophetic dreams the Targaryens have are real and part of some greater plan. Ever since, he takes prophecies and omens very seriously – it’s hard to say he’s “superstitious” as such, given that this is a world in which magic definitely does exist (even if it’s not always comprehensible).

Episode 2

  • The War for the Stepstones is in episodes 2 and 3, filmed as a block by director Greg Yaitanes (confirmed from spy photos). Spy photos of Daemon, Corlys, Laenor, and Vaemond in the Velaryon army camp. Episode 2 is mostly setup for the conflict, then the actual big battle happens in episode 3 (the biggest action sequence of the season).
  • Laenor brings Seasmoke to the war in the Stepstones. He's big enough to ride and dangerous, but then Caraxes arrives and presented side by side this gives the viewers a good sense of just how much bigger a decades-old dragon can be (dragons never stop growing, and Caraxes had a lot more time to grow than Daenerys’s dragons ever did). Of course, Vhagar is twice the size of Caraxes, but we’ll see her later.
  • We'll see throughout the season that Valyrian steel swords are very sharp and can cut completely through people including their armor with relatively little force. Particularly evident when Daemon is using Dark Sister in battle.
  • Viserys then decides to marry Alicent Hightower. We don't see much of the actual wedding ceremony, it's off-screen, but we DO see her wedding gown (i.e. compare how most of the action of the Purple Wedding wasn't act the actual wedding vows but the feast). Her wedding gown is a major costume.
  • We have a spy video clip of the next scene: messengers from King's Landing arrive at the Velaryon war camp in the Stepstones, and hand Daemon a letter with the news that his brother has actually re-married less than a year after his wife's death. Catching the messenger by surprise, Daemon smacks him with a metal helmet and nearly beats him to death with it - Viserys's quick remarriage means he'll be producing a direct male heir sooner instead of later. Nor is Corlys Velaryon pleased (though he doesn't hit anyone), because this means Viserys spurned a marriage alliance through his daughter Laena (on top of the choice to make Rhaenyra heir being a hypocritical reversal of the very principle that made Viserys king over his wife Rhaenys in the first place).

Episode 3

  • After all the setup for the war in the Stepstones in episode 2, most of the actual battle scenes happen in this episode.
  • In a large invented subplot, time skips ahead to a point when Alicent's son Aegon II is a young teenager. Viserys is plagued by doubt about his decision to name Rhaenyra heir, as he now has a son - should he reverse his decision? Going back on his word, after making all the major lords swear binding oaths to Rhaenyra, would be very controversial. On the other hand, he’s driven by the prophetic dream of his son wearing Aegon the Conqueror’s crown, and naming Rhaenyra heir made all sorts of other controversies with the Velaryons.
  • It’s unclear when we skip to teenaged Aegon II, but he’s played by more than two actors. They’ve been casting sets of twins to play Aegon II as a toddler and a four year old (they use twins due to limited work hours with small children).
  • Word reaches the capital that a rare white stag has been spotted in the Kingswood (significant in many real-life mythologies). Viserys thinks that if Aegon II manages to hunt and kill the white stag, it will be an omen that he should be the true heir. He tells Alicent about his dragon-dream and hopes Aegon II can kill the white stag to prove the dream. So as a test, he orders a large royal hunting expedition - these are all the tents we saw at Aldershot in spy photos. It's on the scale of a large tournament, but a hunt, with lords from many major houses accompanying them with their retinues in their own tents. The hunt includes Targaryen, Hightower, Lannister, Strong, Redwyne, etc.
  • Aegon II does manage to kill his first stag...but it's just a regular one, not the white stag which eludes everyone. Viserys takes this as a sign that he shouldn't reverse his decision. Meanwhile, Rhaenyra is off in the woods with Criston Cole, but they get attacked by a wild boar (sort of recalling Robert Baratheon's encounter). She has a ceremonial Valyrian steel dagger, which is so ridiculously sharp you don't need much strength to land a serious wound with it. She manages to ward off the boar with it long enough for Criston to kill it, saving her. She frantically slashes at it even after Criston lands a killing blow. They come back to camp covered in blood. Everyone is impressed with Rhaenyra, not Aegon II, and from this day forward Viserys focuses all his attention on Rhaenyra because she's the heir, and as years pass (throughout season one) you get the sense that Aegon II was largely ignored ever since. This makes him resentful and susceptible to Alicent's goading that he should be king, as she spoils him.
  • From the Greens' point of view, Aegon II was unfairly being held up to a higher standard. Rhaenyra didn't even kill the boar, Criston did; the same day Aegon II managed to kill his first stag (a big step on the road to manhood in their culture), but his father totally ignored him after that because it wasn't a special white stag? Aegon II will gradually grow up to be a spoiled, resentful brat, but he’s not a cartoon character – they invented this hunt subplot to flesh him out, with real human motivations. There are reasons he’s the way he is (he’s not literally insane like Joffrey was).

Episode 4

  • Episodes 4 and 5 were filmed as a block, with director Claire Kilner.
  • Some time passes. Daemon returns to King's Landing and gives Viserys his crown as "king of the Stepstones" as in the book, and they reconcile.
  • Episode 4 will deal with the courtship of Rhaenyra. Mentioned in the books how lords throughout Westeros tried to win her favor, at tourneys across the Riverlands and the Reach. A string of suitors will be presented for Rhaenyra, unclear how many of them will be speaking roles or just a montage. One of these candidates is “Bret Lannister” who we learned of in a casting report – minor role, just some younger Lannister brother or cousin proposed as a potential match. Perhaps introducing Houses/character who will reappear in later seasons.
  • Ultimately, to heal the rift with the Velaryons which is in danger of turning into a civil war, the obvious choice is a political marriage between Viserys’s daughter and heir Rhaenyra and Corlys’s son and heir Laenor. A lot of setup and focus on this, the episode is devoted to explaining how eventually Viserys and Corlys forced both their children into this loveless marriage for political reasons. Apparently Laena also has some scenes by now.
  • Both Rhaenyra and Laenor are in love with other people. Both of them actually admit this to each other during their walk on the beach we saw in spy photos. They are in fact quite friendly about it, and mutually agree to go along with the marriage fully expecting each other to clandestinely continue their other relationships. Laenor is presented as an honorable, honest, and likable person – they’re friendly and both know it’s a sham marriage for politics.
  • Daemon takes Rhaenyra to a pleasure house, as in the books.
  • Daemon and Rhaenyra's relationship is complicated; they are loving and familial, obviously deteriorates after she's named heir; sort of tension and rivalry leading to chemistry, leading to him taking her to a brothel when she's in her Criston Cole phase. She barely sees Daemon after marrying Laenor - during the time skip mid-season - so when she comes back to present Joff in episode 6 it's years later. There were some hints of romantic elements with Young Rhaenyra but there’s outright romantic tension when we switch to adult Rhaenyra. Difficult to say if he's "grooming" her as it's more of an enemies-to-friends rivalry (after she’s named the heir). After they're married, Rhaenyra and Daemon do have a strong bond, but it's hard to say whether it's romantic or more of a friendly political partnership, as Daemon rarely reveals his true emotions.
  • Rhaenyra and Rhaenys also a bit tense, perhaps due to the bastard rumors? She respects Rhaenys, but of course Rhaenys was her father’s rival for years. It’s an arc for character growth, that ends with episode 10 that Rhaenys respects her for her restraint to avoid war and seeking diplomacy first. This solidifies Rhaenys and Corlys declaring for the Blacks.

Episode 5

  • Rhaenyra/Laenor wedding. As a royal wedding this is a huge sequence, with lots of guests, ballroom dances, etc. Possibly introducing Houses & characters who will be important later.
  • There's actually as many as 7 or so minor Velaryons in the background at the wedding feast (as can be seen in the teaser), but they don't have speaking lines or names. There were a confusingly large number of minor Velaryon cousins in the book; the TV show will visually acknowledge they exist but won’t trouble the audience with new names to keep track of.
  • Due to limits on how many tournaments they could film (safety and time, even with a huge budget filming a tournament is very difficult) they reshuffled things so that THIS event is the "Blacks versus Greens" costume shift. Alicent's green dress moment happens now. In the books this happened at the tourney in honor of Viserys and Alicent’s five year wedding anniversary.
  • The book gives rival accounts of how Criston and Rhaenyra broke up before their wedding: the Greens say he rejected her lustful advances, the Blacks say he begged her to run away with him to the Free Cities and get married. Even then debate about whether she rejected him because she arrogantly wouldn't abandon her throne, or because she pointed out that if he could break his Kingsguard vows, he could break a marriage vow. It's not exactly clear how the TV show is going to play this...but the general idea is that Criston feels Rhaenyra "tempted him to break his oath" - whether that means they had sex at some point, or he just considers loving her to be breaking his oath, is unknown. But the way they'll play it is that he begs her to run away with him to the Free Cities to marry her...because marrying her is the only way he can restore his honor, in his mind. Rhaenyra refuses - and from then on, in a skewed morality way, Criston forever thinks that it's Rhaenyra's fault that his honor was besmirched, because she wouldn't let him correct his original mistake. Unclear if Rhaenyra perhaps earlier implied that she wanted to run away with him, but later realized this would never work? (in which case she might have been "leading him on" with such a plan). As the rumors stand now, though, it seems Criston blames Rhaenyra for tempting him - and Rhaenyra picking up sex advice in brothels in prior episode makes it clear she was actively tempting him - even though he's the one who chose to give in and break his vows. So he blames her for not letting him restore his honor by marrying her (which is more about him than about her). This sends him into a black rage...
  • In the book, Criston kills Laenor's lover Joffrey Lonmouth at the melee tourney held as part of the wedding celebrations. Due to limits of time, budget, and safety, they only had that one big tournament in the first episode. So instead, they'll shift this to being some sort of spontaneous fight that breaks out between Criston and Joffrey in the Red Keep itself - apparently at some point after the day-long royal feast, but before the actual vows are exchanged at the end of the evening. I'm not sure how they'll avoid Criston being charged with murder - apparently because it was an ongoing duel, perhaps he didn't draw his weapon first? He doesn't just straight-up ambush Joffrey it's a fight scene. The book described that Criston completely bashed Joffrey's head in - they will not shy away from this, his head is reduced to pulp. This is going to be a big "oh shit!" moment comparable to when Gregor Clegane graphically crushed Oberyn Martell's head (and to be honest, they didn't actually show much of that in closeup, just the spray from it off-camera). Laenor screams. Even Alicent is horrified (it's not like she gained anything from the death of Laenor's lover). The wedding is ruined, most of the guests depart, Rhaenyra and a devastated Laenor recite their wedding vows in front of a handful of remaining core family members.
  • Rhea Royce appears on screen at some point. Implied that Daemon has Mysaria use her spy network to kill Rhea so he can marry Laena (at some point in episodes 4 or 5).

TIME SKIP

A LOT of work went into the acting for the time skips, to show the passage of time by how actors speak their lines, how they stand, etc. Older and younger versions of some characters need to talk and move similarly, while other characters with the same actor but simply older (Daemon) have slightly different makeup/movement to indicate a decade or so has passed. Even for the adult versions of Rhaenyra & Alicent: Emma D’Arcy and Olivia Cooke are mothers to small children/young teenagers in episode 6, but there’s a smaller time skip between episodes 7 and 8, so that by episode 10 their children have grown to late teens/adults.

Episode 6

  • Re-introducing the main roles now played by older actors after the time skip: Emma D’Arcy as adult Rhaenyra, Olivia Cooke as adult Alicent, etc. It also introduces their children – younger versions of their children (before this we only saw a younger version of Aegon II).
  • We last saw Rhaenyra & Laenor at their wedding, and skip ahead years to the birth of Rhaenyra's third son, Joff. We don't see a montage of all three sons being born and growing up, instead we meet all three at once by skipping to when the third is born. Rhaenyra has been living on Dragonstone (visiting Driftmark) for many years so she hasn't been to King's Landing in some time, thus everyone is "reintroducing" themselves to each other paralleling how we the audience are meeting the older actors taking over the roles.
  • We see Alicent and Rhaenyra's sons as they train, take lessons in High Valyrian. The Dragonkeepers speak in High Valyrian and teach them dragon commands in it. Dragon commands include: "Dracarys!" (Fire!), “Mazis!” (Come!), "Soves!" (Fly!), “Pales!” (Turn!), “Adere!” (Fast!), “Dohaeras!” (“Serve!” ???)
  • Aemond is mocked for not having claimed a dragon yet. Jace and Luke taunt him by bringing in a pig and calling it "the Pink Dread" and saying it should be his mount.
  • Alicent is "attracted" to Criston Cole when he's young – what woman at court isn't? in a general sense - though when they're older it's more of a friendship, out of their mutual dislike of Rhaenyra, not implied to be an affair.
  • By this time, Daemon is living with Laena in Pentos, along with their two daughters. Several scenes of them in Pentos. Unlike the books, Baela and Rhaena are not twins but a year apart. They weren't identical twins in the books, so apparently they just wanted to avoid confusion by not making them twins as such, but close in age. Small change.
  • Laena dies in childbirth, the baby stillborn.

Episode 7

  • As we already knew from spy photos, the events surrounding Laena’s funeral in the Year of the Red Spring are the major focus of this episode.
  • The Velaryon funeral custom is to sink a stone sarcophagus underwater, at one specific place so they're with all their ancestors' sarcophaguses underwater.
  • Unclear if Laenor dies in episode 7, or more probably episode 6. We see Corlys and Rhaenys’s devastated reactions.
  • By this point we see Aegon II riding Sunfyre, to get to the funeral (as in the book).
  • This is apparently the one big point where they’re going to show off having at least 10 dragons on screen at once (as in the books it says the family gathered for her funeral briefly made Driftmark the single largest gathering of dragons in one place since the Doom of Valyria).
  • It also becomes clear that Vaemond thinks Rhaenyra's sons are bastards.
  • Vhagar is so big, twice the size of even Caraxes, that her eyeball is taller than young Aemond is (Drogon was not remotely this big).
  • Baela & Rhaena have been expanded a bit (though the source is just an outline to begin with); they are now part of the beach fight with Aemond as well. Baela already has young Moondancer, but Rhaena feels useless for not having a dragon yet. Rhaena actually hoped to claim her mother's dragon Vhagar, and reacts to Aemond claiming her as a huge insult.
  • As suspected, Daemon and Rhaenyra in the teaser had just had sex on the beach – it was out of their shared grief. What they’re staring off-camera with concerned looks is that across the bay (some distance away) they see Vhagar taking to the air, and realize Aemond must have claimed her (which is why Daemon looks so grim). Rhaena wouldn’t have tried to claim Vhagar without adults present.
  • After dismounting, Aemond acts smug and they soon start fighting . It's four on one (Jace, Luke, Baela & Rhaena instead of young Joff it seems), but Aemond is bigger than any of them. As the fight gets worse Jace pulls a kitchen knife on Aemond, but he drops it when Aemond punches him so hard he breaks his nose. As he continues to pound Jace, young Luke desperately picks it up and slashes at him to save his brother - taking out Aemond's eye.
  • They sort of show that the fight just spiraled, Rhaenyra's boys are the ones who used a knife, but Luke who actually slashed him was just desperately trying to save Jace and is clearly so young and small he couldn't possibly have stopped Aemond with just his fists. Each side claims they were justified afterwards.
  • All are then gathered in front of King Viserys along with their parents. Alicent completely freaks out upon seeing her son mutilated, demands the old royal law against striking one of royal blood (all this parallels how Cersei actually wanted Robert to cut off Arya's hand, though much more sympathetically because Aemond has actually been maimed, Alicent is a normal mother shocked with grief). When Viserys refuses to have Luke punished by mutilating him, the hysterical Alicent grabs a Valyrian steel dagger (off someone?) and slashes at him. Rhaenyra shields Luke with her arm, however; they show again how sharp Valyrian steel is that even in the hand of the small and not very strong Alicent, it slashes Rhaenyra deeply with minimal effort. She was aiming for Luke, didn't think Rhaenyra would get between them. After Alicent sees Rhaenyra injured she comes to her senses, immediately stops and realizes she's gone too far, drops the dagger.
  • Rhaenyra and Daemon are married not long afterwards in a "Valyrian ceremony" at Dragonstone. We've never seen this in the books, it's only mentioned that a Valyrian wedding rite is different (i.e. Maegor's second marriage). Apparently it involves speaking in High Valyrian (of course) and blood (of course).
  • We will see the fire at Harrenhal, and it will reveal who actually set it and killed Lyonel & Harwin Strong (the book gave multiple candidates).

Episode 8

  • Another, smaller time skip between episodes 7 and 8, shifting from the young version of Rhaenyra and Alicent's children to the older versions. Apparently the last major time skip.
  • At some point, apparently episode 8, there’s a scene in which Rhaenyra proposes to Rhaenys that her sons Jace & Luke should be betrothed to Baela & Rhaena – Rhaenys’s granddaughters through her daughter Laena. Generally you get the sense that Corlys and Rhaenys love Rhaenyra’s sons, even though they realize they’re probably not Laenor’s sons, but they’ve gained grandsons-IN LAW so they’re okay with that: one way or another, a great-grandchild of Corlys and Rhaenys will sit on the Iron Throne.
  • The subplot from the book of the "Silent Five Velaryons" and Vaemond are condensed into just Vaemond, now Corlys's younger brother instead of his nephew. Corlys is severely ill, though he later makes a full recovery. But it brings the issue of succession to a head. Vaemond comes to the Red Keep to press his claim to Driftmark, accusing that Rhaenyra's sons are bastards (Jace is heir to the Iron Throne, Luke the heir to Driftmark).
  • They greatly expand on how Viserys was so upset at this that he slipped and cut his fingers to the bone on the Iron Throne, then the wounds got badly infected. In the TV show, the infection outright causes sepsis throughout his body. It gets so bad he covers part of his face with a mask so as not to frighten people (think like King Baldwin in Kingdom of Heaven, the good king struck with leprosy).
  • Rhaenyra presents her latest son to her very sick father, revealing that she named him "Viserys" after his grandfather. King Viserys is deeply moved. (ultimately, Viserys II is the direct ancestor of Daenerys, Jon Snow, etc.)
  • As in the books, after the Vaemond incident Viserys tries to hold a reconciliation feast between the Blacks and the Greens. It's a very awkward family dinner / royal feast, and a major focus of the episode (it's actually the last time we'll see all of these members from both factions gathered in one place).
  • They keep up the pretense of politeness for Viserys's sake. Daemon and Otto politely toast each other, it seems very convincing but it's really just for show. After Viserys retires for the evening (early due to his frailty), they start getting more insulting. When the servers present a big roast pig on the table in front of Aemond, Jace and Luke make a crack about "the Pink Dread" again (we actually have seen this large, prominent roast pig from a feast in spy photos). Aemond responds by giving his famous, sarcastic toast to "these Strong boys" (capital S, accusing that they’re really Harwin Strong’s bastards).
  • Helaena talks with Baela and Rhaena at the feast. She's more polite than her two brothers. They ask what it's like being married to Aegon II, which was done out of custom not out of love. In an upbeat way she says it's not bad, as he mostly ignores her and leaves her to her own devices - except when he's drunk. She says it in such a way you can tell she doesn't really love Aegon II romantically as a husband, but she doesn't really mind it either (of course, Rhaenyra and Laenor were in a similar situation, in a sham marriage due to custom/politics). For his part, Aegon II doesn't "dislike" Helaena but it's clearly a political marriage - apparently he loves her as a sister just not as a wife. But there's no Cersei/Robert type hatred.
  • Baela is more aggressive at "the" family feast Daemon has to drag her off from fighting the Green kids (before or after time skip?) – Baela is her father’s daughter, aggressive, Rhaena is the gentle courtly ladylike one.
  • Jace asks Helaena to Dance, Aegon II takes offense, as does Alicent though she just silently glares (as in book).

Episode 9

  • Aegon II's twins Jaehaerys and Jaehaera are born early in episode 9. A few more years may pass in-universe, but it’s not a “time skip” as such for any of the speaking roles.
  • The younger children are present in the show but aren’t really characters yet, much like Tommen in Game of Thrones Season 1 who had no speaking lines: establishing they exist, so that as time passes in later seasons they can introduce them as small children (Joff, Viserys II, Aegon III, Aegon II’s children). Daeron isn’t on-screen in S1, but they mention he’s in Oldtown.
  • We get reports that Helaena is depicted as being good natured, but a bit "touched" even during this time of peace. Think Luna Lovegood from Harry Potter. Apparently you get the sense that she has prophetic dragon-dreams or is a bit more in tune with nature or the dragons, senses things others don't but doesn't communicate it well either. Head in the clouds. That she'll make a weird comment about a “beast rising up from the boards”, and later that actually happens at the Dragonpit.
  • King Viserys dies in his sleep. Aemond and Criston Cole go looking for Aegon II, as do the Cargyll twins. They find him at an awful brothel & gambling den in Flea Bottom (book mentions he was in the arms of his paramour at the time). The leaked audition tape for the Cargyll twins is from this (the dialogue will be updated). One of the twins is unsettled at what a lecherous, sulking brat Aegon II is and says he doesn't think he should be king. The other twin argues that so long as the king is just a figurehead for his advisors, that is, his mother and grandfather, it doesn't really matter if Aegon II is good or not, because the other option is worse - upending the succession law of male preference to put Rhaenyra on the throne (and they think the Velaryons are all bastards and Daemon is a maniac). Eventually the twins split, as in the book, with one of them going over to Rhaenyra's side.
  • In a major departure from the book, Lord Commander Harrold Westerling is STILL ALIVE and will probably continue into Season 2. He'll be the Kingsguard who sneaks out of the capital to join Rhaenyra on Dragonstone (they merged some Kingsguard characters).
  • The Green Council gathers. Larry Strong doesn't speak a lot, but stares intently and you can tell he's thinking - yeah, Game of Thrones did that too much, but he is described that way in the books. Constantly scheming, a man of few words who weighs each one carefully. He's sort of a Littlefinger type - the closer to the books Littlefinger of earlier TV seasons - in that he's ruthless and actually isn't entirely loyal to Alicent. His goals happen to align with theirs for now, because he hates Rhaenyra, but he's a player in his own right with his own agenda. Tyland Lannister was appointed by Otto and agrees with him, while old Lyman Beesbury is loyal to Viserys and insists on precedent and the oaths they took. No mention of Ironrod yet.
  • ...we've been getting multiple rumors about how Lyman Beesbury dies. There were three alternate versions in the book due to the unreliable narrator element. There are multiple new versions, beyond these three, being described in contradictory rumors. I suspect they put different versions in different scripts to try to weed out anyone who leaks them. So I will not share them here. Only that I think we can rule out the one version that said "they put him in the dungeon and he got sick from the cold and died" (that wouldn't make for good TV).
  • They make it clear that both the Blacks and the Greens are internally divided between the war hawks and those pushing for diplomacy. For the Blacks, as we'll see later, Daemon is pushing for war while Rhaenyra thinks they should just surrender in a negotiated settlement (I hope they later keep in that just because Daemon wants war doesn't mean he'll stupidly rush into the battlefield, but then patiently builds up their forces) - but see details on that below. For the Greens, Otto Hightower is pushing for war while Alicent insists they should try to win through bloodless diplomacy first. This seems a bit of a departure from the book so let's see how they play it. In the book, Otto is an intelligent diplomat - both Otto and Alicent hope to win through diplomacy, getting so many Great Houses on their side that Rhaenyra just gives up without a fight. It's Otto who patiently builds alliances with Daemon's enemies in the Triple Alliance of the Free Cities. In contrast, it's Aegon II and Aemond who are the hotheads pushing for a quick fight. Well, maybe not comparable; apparently it's something like Otto is trying to convince Alicent that this will only end once Rhaenyra and her children are dead, along with Daemon, they should even try to assassinate them for a quick end. Otto starts ordering Harrold Westerling to go to Dragonstone and kill Rhaenyra - but Alicent immediately intercedes against her own father, cutting him off in front of the council and ordering Harrold not to do that. Disgusted, Harrold takes off his cloak and leaves. Alicent then argues her father down, something along the lines of the logic that "if we send assassins against Rhaenyra and Daemon, they'll try to send assassins against us - once one of our children dies there's no going back, and the price of victory might be one or more of our children".
  • Otto Hightower and his daughter Alicent are like evened out versions of Tywin and Cersei Lannister; they're ambitious but they're not sadistic or with crippling personality flaws, which means they're not stupid - making them all the more dangerous. Unlike Tywin, Otto genuinely loves and is loved by his entire family. Where Tywin would think the death of one or two of his nephews or cousins might be worth a victory, Otto doesn't - thinking on it, he's unwilling to risk things escalating and potentially getting Hightowers & his grandchildren killed. Instead, he volunteers to go to Dragonstone himself as an envoy, to convince Rhaenyra that she's been politically outmaneuvered and to accept a negotiated settlement without a fight.
  • Episode 9 ends with Aegon II's coronation in front of crowds at the Dragonpit.

Episode 10

  • In a drastic expansion from the books, Rhaenys is still in the Red Keep when Viserys dies and the Greens seize power (she was still there due to the Vaemond incident, Corlys was not because he hadn’t recovered yet). Confrontations that happened by exchanged letters through envoys in the books work better in a TV format by having actual face to face confrontations.
  • Alicent has Rhaenys locked in her room: she wants a bloodless coup and hopes that Rhaenys can see it will just be easier to accept Aegon II's rule as a foregone conclusion. Tries to humor her not break her: “you should have been queen, but the world belongs to men”.
  • In the book, the Kingsguard splits in half, with three members deciding to slip out of King’s Landing and defect to Rhaenyra on Dragonstone – taking her father Viserys’s crown with them. The new Rhaenys subplot is more of an addition to that subplot than entirely invented: now, the Kingsguard sneaking out to join Rhaenyra now “steal” Rhaenys as well as Viserys’s crown.
  • In the books, Erryk Cargyll and Lorent Marbrand were already on Dragonstone, it was Steffon Darklyn alone who snuck out of King's Landing with Viserys's crown. Harrold Westerling now, apparently, takes the place of Lorent Marbrand - and indeed, "Lorent Marbrand" might not exist by name in the TV show. Not a straightforward "Harrold = Lorent" though, they might mix and match elements between both of them and Steffon Darklyn. So it's Harrold who sneaks out of King's Landing with the crown, Steffon is already on Dragonstone training Rhaenyra's sons (see below), and we know Erryk exists because we've seen the Cargyll twins in spy photos. My running theory - just a theory - is that "TV-Steffon" might die in the trials of the Dragonseeds like he did in the books, while Harrold Westerling might stick around for several seasons before ultimately dying the way Lorent Marbrand did, during the riots of King's Landing and storming of the Dragonpit.
  • Rhaenys joins Kingsguard in escape, disguised as commoners as they try to sneak out through the city streets. They get caught up in the crowds surging towards the Dragonpit for the coronation, but Rhaenys – thinking on her feet - says they should seize on the opportunity so she can get her dragon Meleys back. There's so much confusion and distraction from the large crowd of thousands of people that Rhaenys is able to sneak through through some access tunnels to get to Meleys – she bursts out of some floorboards and flies back to Dragonstone ("the beast under the boards" that Helaena incoherently muttered about before from a vision).
  • The Greens had been preventing ships or ravens from coming to Dragonstone, to delay Rhaenyra and Daemon reacting to the coup for as long as possible. News is therefore first brought to the island by Rhaenys herself when she arrives on Meleys.
  • Upon hearing of her father's death and Aegon II's coronation, Rhaenyra goes into premature labor, giving birth to a stillborn monstrosity.
  • Otto Hightower then arrives on Dragonstone to present terms (taking over from the maester in the book version), that she's been outmaneuvered but no one wants a war, she can't win, if she publicly gives up her claim they'll let her continue to rule Dragonstone as her private fief. Upset at the betrayal and the loss of her daughter, Rhaenyra refuses.
  • Rhaenyra's coronation happens at the same time as her stillborn daughter's funeral. Kingsguard knights arrive with her father's crown.
  • Rhaenyra actually wants to AVOID war and hopes for diplomacy (as in the book at this point). She feels that as queen, her duty is to the good of the realm. Challenging Aegon II would mean plunging Westeros into what is at best an even fight for them, which would tear the realm in half for years. So if they can't outmaneuver Alicent politically, Rhaenyra feels she should just accept a settlement (still ruling just Dragonstone as her private fief). Rhaenys is impressed by her restraint, solidifying the loyalty of Corlys and House Velaryon to her.
  • Later in private, Rhaenyra gives Daemon a second reason she’s willing to make a negotiated surrender rather than split the realm into civil war: she points out to Daemon that Aegon the Conqueror's prophetic dream said the Targaryens must unite Westeros against an apocalyptic threat in the future, never break it up into smaller political units – and she says this in such a way it’s clear she assumed Daemon already knew about that. Daemon is instead livid, because Viserys never told his brother that – revealing that no one ever thought Daemon would be a suitable king, not his father, not his grandfather Jaehaerys, not his own brother Viserys.
  • Daemon has a huge scene manipulating the situation, switching between furious and caring, ultimately playing up the angle that "Alicent will never let you or your sons live because they'll always be a threat". The Greens have similar debate between those hoping for diplomacy and those who think it only ends with one side or the other dead.
  • Rhaenyra reluctantly comes around and agrees to be crowned queen, though for now their plan is to build political alliances - to get the armies of the Baratheons, Arryns, Starks, etc. hoping that if they can amass a big enough force the Greens will negotiate rather than actually fight. Alicent and the Greens have similar plans during this opening stage, “the war of quills and ravens” – not rush into war, but build up their own alliances in the hope that Rhaenyra will just give up if she’s badly outnumbered. In the books, Borros Baratheon basically stated this; he didn’t really think he was “betraying” his cousin Rhaenys by siding against her in a war, because he thought it wouldn’t come to war: that much like the Great Council of 101 AC, after the Velaryons saw they were badly outnumbered they would back down without a fight.
  • Spy photos of Daemon laying on the beach in episode 10 aren't due to one specific scene, just a private moment in which he's alone and can finally let go of all his pent up frustration and exhaustion at the death of his brother, death of his child, the Green's betrayal, and a lifetime of scheming.
  • The scenes we saw of the Kingsguard Steffon Darklyn (Anthony Flanagan) using his sword on the beach in Cornwall were him training Jace and Luke; Rhaenys interrupts to say Rhaenyra needs to speak with them, and she informs them about Viserys's death.
  • Rhaenyra sends her two eldest sons on diplomatic missions. We don't see Jace after he leaves - there's not enough time to do it right, so rather than rush it they're pushing it to the beginning of Season 2, to introduce the prequel era Arryns and then prequel era Starks.
  • What we DO see is Luke's mission to the Baratheons at Storm's End - only to find that Alicent already sent Aemond there. Aemond agreed to be betrothed to a Baratheon daughter, while Luke admits he's already betrothed to his cousin Rhaena.
  • Much as in the book, Borros Baratheon is rude and obnoxious, but stops Aemond from fighting Luke in his own halls, because he already extended him guest right. Borros allows Luke to leave Storm’s End safely on his dragon. He does not, however, prevent Aemond from chasing after him. The Dance over Storm’s End: Aemond vs Luke on Vhagar and Arrax.
  • Final scene of the episode is Daemon telling Rhaenyra that Luke is dead.

Locations

  • King’s Landing
  • Dragonstone
  • Driftmark
  • The Kingswood
  • Storm’s End
  • Harrenhal
  • Stepstones
  • Pentos

We probably won’t see Winterfell, Casterly Rock, or Oldtown in Season 1; though we didn’t see Casterly Rock or Highgarden until Season 7, but saw Lannisters and Tyrells since Season 1. Unclear if we’ll see them briefly visiting other Free Cities.

Dragons

There are 20 living dragons at this time in the books. In Season 1 we can confirm:

  1. Caraxes (Daemon)
  2. Syrax (Rhaenyra)
  3. Meleys (Rhaenys)
  4. Seasmoke (Laenor)
  5. Vermax (Jace)
  6. Arrax (Luke)
  7. Moondancer (Baela)
  8. Vhagar (Laena, Aemond)
  9. Sunfyre (Aegon II)
  10. Dreamfyre (Helaena)

They’ll prominently show Balerion’s skull. Unclear if hatchlings too small to ride will be in season one: Stormcloud, Morghul, Shrykos, or Joff’s Tyraxes (barely big enough to ride). That would bring the number up to 14.

Daeron and Tessarion aren’t in season one (but will be in season 2) that’s 15. That leaves the now-riderless Vermithor and Silverwing, and 3 “wild” dragons who never knew a rider: Sheepstealer, Grey Ghost, and the Cannibal. They’re probably not going to introduce the wild dragons until Season 2, though for all we know they might cameo. Rumors that we’ll see Vermithor on screen at some point in the Dragonpit – and if Vermithor, why not Silverwing?

But we should see at least ten ridden dragons in Season 1. All will probably appear in one shot at Laena’s funeral. So ten dragons plus 2 or 3 hatchlings? 3 dragons can conquer a continent.


--The Dragon Demands (talk) 23:41, 25 March 2022 (UTC)

Comments

  • Who's playing King Jaehaerys? An extra, maybe a cameo? Have we seen or suspected anyone?
  • Isn't the heart tree in King's Landing a great oak, not a weirwood?
  • There are probably Cole banners on the other side. The Tarly banners are because Criston is jousting against a Tarly
  • Why is Daemon sitting on the throne and why is the LC of the Kingsguard allowing it?
  • Why would "Rickon" be confusing?
  • Viserys seems a lot more like the quiet and brooding Ned than the jolly man he is in the books.
  • Is this kingswood scene the same one as the spy photos of the large camp with all the banners?
  • I've heard some unsettling rumors/speculation that Rhaenyra's dress will be red instead of black, and it will actually be "Reds vs Greens" for obvious and stupid reasons. Any truth to this?
  • I wonder if "Dohaeras" is more like "bow" (so the rider can get on), rather than "Dohaeris (serve).
  • Why Baela and Rhaena instead of Joff? Has he been cut?
  • It's probably Alicent's own dagger. Viserys has the dagger on his chest during the Blackfyre scene, so he probably gave it to her after they married.
  • Just how old is Harrold Westerling in episode 9? He's already at least 60 before the time skip, right?

Potsk signature.png (talk) 14:21, 26 March 2022 (UTC)

  • Rumor is that Jaehaerys will appear on-screen, but zero word on who is playing him.
  • ...aren't all heart trees weirwoods?
  • ...OH, yeah that makes sense; because of the camera angle - yeah, probably Cole heraldry on the other side.
  • I'm not sure how the heck no one is complaining about Daemon on the Iron Throne...but hey, if there was one character who doesn't give a rat's ass about the rules, it's Daemon, so I'll allow it.
  • Tsk tsk (pulls up a chair) My friend, the casual audience member is a simple creature, who gets confused by the fact that two people in the same continent share the first name "Robert"...much less, that there's two characters in a dynasty named "Bran Stark". Thus "Sweetrobin Arryn" is actually named "Robin" in the show instead of Robert. So the rumor is that to avoid confusion with the...criminally underused Rickon Stark in Game of Thrones, they're going to rename him "Rickard" (even though this is also the name of Ned's father, though his name didn't appear prominently on-screen). Either way it's unclear if a young Cregan Stark will cameo in Season 1 (I sure hope he does) but the idea is that Rickard Stark, Boremund Baratheon, etc. will be present during the oath-swearing scene where all the great lords pledge that Rhaenyra is the official heir.
    • Frankly, I'm reacting with "restrained jubilation" to the fact that they didn't rename Rhaenyra/Rhaenys/Rhaena, Laena/Helaena, MULTIPLE characters named "Aegon" and "Viserys", that "Daemon" sounds like "Aemond", etc. We got lucky.
  • Well...would YOU be "jolly" after your wife died in childbirth, your infant son died later that day, and your second wife is constantly scheming against your daughter by your first wife? All the while, your first cousin and her wealthy family is threatening civil war against you? I wouldn't say "brooding" so much as "kind but grieving".
  • Yes, that's what made me think the hunt leak was real; because the spy photos from Aldershot look a lot more like a royal hunting camp than a tournament set.
  • ...I honestly don't know if the "Blacks" have been changed to the "Reds". I wouldn't mind if they did. But I've seen no rumors about it. To be honest the running theory is that they might not even call either group by name in Season 1, "the Blacks" and "the Greens", because they only really form into distinct factions by the second half of the season.
  • Why Baela & Rhaena instead of Joff? Because even in the books it was kind of silly that a 3 year old (even a 5 year old in a TV version) was "fighting" Aemond in any meaningful sense. I think.
  • I point that out in the notes here: not a single child has been cut, but some of the younger ones just aren't prominent characters: Joff, Aegon III, Viserys II, and Aegon II's children. Think Tommen & Myrcella in Game of Thrones Season 1 - they'll show them on screen just to establish they exist.
  • Daeron the Daring will be treated like Stannis was in Season 1: the leaks are that they will clearly establish in dialogue that he exists, but it wasn't worth casting him yet; the in-universe explanation, which actually matches the books, is that he's squiring to the Hightowers in Oldtown. You know, like a TV show where the youngest brother is "away at university" but gets introduced in a later season. Which is fine, might as well cast him closer to when he actually does stuff.
  • I think they're implying there are MULTIPLE Valyrian steel daggers (throwing subtle shade that the one in Game of Thrones actually wasn't a particularly important one, with all that invented "it will kill the Night King who doesn't exist in the books" nonsense :) - that would be nice and it's what I'm hoping for, but we shall see.
  • Harrold Westerling: they've moved the ages all around due to aging up the younger characters, we shouldn't assume anything. But it increasingly looks like they're merging Harrold with the role of Steffon Darklyn (and Steffon with Lorent Marbrand?) - that Harrold will defect to Rhaenyra's Queensguard. They did cast a very prominent actor in the role. --The Dragon Demands (talk) 16:03, 26 March 2022 (UTC)
Thank you for your answers.
  • On naming: I wouldn't really underestimate the audience. We'll never know if casual viewers were confused by "Robert Arryn" or "Asha Greyjoy" because these changes were made by the showrunners alone, not by popular demand. It's the showrunners who thought it would be confusing.
  • On the heart tree: "The heart tree there was a great oak, its ancient limbs overgrown with smokeberry vines; they knelt before it to offer their thanksgiving, as if it had been a weirwood." - AGoT Eddard V
  • On Viserys: It's common for grieving people to feign happiness and jollity as a coping mechanism. That's how I saw him in F&B. —Potsk signature.png (talk) 16:49, 26 March 2022 (UTC)
...Odd, very odd about that heart tree.--The Dragon Demands (talk) 22:08, 26 March 2022 (UTC)
  • Oh no, you were right about Rickon being named Rickard. Does this mean the entire season has been spoiled for me by reading this? D: —Potsk signature.png (talk) 17:25, 5 May 2022 (UTC)
    • Well...you got spoiled when you read the book it's based on. :) --The Dragon Demands (talk) 03:10, 7 May 2022 (UTC)
      • I was thinking more like the gaps the show will fill and what it will do differently —Potsk signature.png (talk) 09:34, 7 May 2022 (UTC)
        • ...only in the broadest of strokes. I mean for all we know there's an entire running subplot with young Cregan Stark we simply don't know about. Biggest thing is probably that royal hunt. The rest is just...details.--The Dragon Demands (talk) 23:21, 7 May 2022 (UTC)
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