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House Greyjoy banner looks like female anatomy lol QueenBuffy35px-Pink crown 22:40, June 11, 2011 (UTC)

Victarion Greyjoy - Final Disposition

Okay this is long overdue: with Season 6 over, it appears that Victarion Greyjoy officially doesn't exist in the TV continuity - he will only change to "exist" in it in the unlikely event of a future retcon or something, an official retcon.

So now we need to remove Victarion from all the navigation menus and such.

I think we'll leave "Victarion Greyjoy" as a redirect leading to "House Greyjoy", just because we have a lot of people who might try to link to it.--The Dragon Demands (talk) 22:04, December 23, 2016 (UTC)

Sounds good.--Shaneymike (talk) 22:11, December 23, 2016 (UTC)


Kingship

So, this has been particularly confusing me since Season 7 really, but even more so now. Are the Greyjoys still claiming kingship over the Iron Islands through the Salt Throne? I think this warrants a discussion because the dialogue and actions, both of Euron to Cersei and Yara and Theon to Daenerys, that they have went ahead and fully pledged themselves to their respective queens. But... it hasn't been explicitly mentioned, and some of the dialogue is a bit ambiguous on the point. Furthermore, the HBO Viewer Guide still lists Euron as King of the Iron Islands. It makes no mention of Yara, but for what it's worth, it hasn't mentioned that she's given up her claim for Daenerys or anything like that.

There's a bunch of stuff in S7, but just basing it off the latest episodes alone, we have Theon bending the knee to Daenerys when he arrives at Winterfell in A Knight of the Seven Kingdoms (I don't think monarchical allies would do that with each other, though I guess it could be argued that Theon isn't the monarch [but isn't Yara his queen?] and/or he was just doing it out of respect), Euron calling Cersei "my queen" and basically bending the knee to her when he's "proposing" to her in The Last of the Starks (Cersei says that the "kraken shall rule the sea," and their child both, but does that really imply as kings?), and Yara is mentioned repeatedly to have retaken the Iron Islands both "in Daenerys's name" and "in her queen's name." So what gives?

In S7, Euron refers to himself as being chosen as Lord of the Iron Islands when negotiating with Cersei in Dragonstone (of course, this could be just be him doing it out of respect, since after all, Jaime later argues in the scene that the Greyjoys rebelled against the Iron Throne to be monarchs after Euron himself refers to himself and Cersei as "rightful monarchs"). Later, when he delivers Ellaria Sand and Tyene Sand to Cersei in The Queen's Justice, he calls Cersei "my queen." So it's sort of inconsistent too.... Reddyredcp (talk) 23:37, May 7, 2019 (UTC)

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