Talk: Bran Stark

Bran rename?

Aside from references in the books, Bran's mother clearly calls him "Brandon" at around 23:43 into episode 1 as he is caught climbing down one of the castle's inner walls. It seems best to have his full name, rather than a nickname as the article title, but we need to come up with a suitable distinction between the young Bran, and his deceased uncle Brandon Stark. If I had to come up with one on the spot, I think something like "Brandon Stark (the elder)" would work - at least for now. Bran Stark should then redirect to "Brandon Stark" as the son of Eddard is what the vast majority would be searching for.

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I agree.--Opark 77 07:05, March 26, 2012 (UTC)

Done.--Opark 77 07:42, March 26, 2012 (UTC)

Origins of Greenseeing and Warging Abilities

If Greenseeing and  "skin-changing" were originally abilities belonging to the Children of the Forest, then I wonder if these skills were taught to the First Men, or maybe there occurred limited degree of interbreeding between the two races in the earlier centuries of contact? If the latter, then perhaps many greenseers or wargs in contemporary Westeros, including the Stark dynasty, may well be partially descended from the Children of the Forest.

Thoughts? --Fenrir51 (talk) 22:13, June 20, 2013 (UTC)

The Children of the Forest weren't very human, no one ever suggests cross-breeding occurred; the general assumption is that this ability was taught to the First Men as was their religion. Really...the children of the forest are described as basically humanoid, tail-less squirrels the size of a ten year old human. I think they're too different for cross-breeding to work.--The Dragon Demands (talk) 22:49, June 20, 2013 (UTC)

Okay! Just an idea. I wasn't attached to it. So perhaps the Old Gods of the forest impart these abilities on people whom actively worship or commune with them? --Fenrir51 (talk) 22:59, June 20, 2013 (UTC)

King in the North

Should it be mentioned that after the Red Wedding, Bran is the new King in the North? 193.191.216.75 13:45, September 16, 2013 (UTC)

No. There is no King of the North anymore. Technically Bran is Robb's heir in exile, but that's just a legal technicality. He doesn't sit the throne at Winterfell or anything. Get used to Bolton rule: Ramsay Snow, serial rapist and homicidal maniac, is the new Lord of Winterfell. Long may he reign.--The Dragon Demands (talk) 17:34, September 16, 2013 (UTC)

Bran Warging Hodor

In the Season 4 finale, Bran initially ordered Hodor to help Meera and Jojen against the skeletal wights attacking them. Wouldn't he have known by then to just warg into Hodor, or is it the sort of an experience he did not want to repeat after killing Locke in episode 5? --Fenrir51 (talk) 22:40, June 18, 2014 (UTC)

Bran doesn't like forcibly taking control of his friend's body unless both of their lives depend on it.--The Dragon Demands (talk) 03:51, June 19, 2014 (UTC)

Season 5 appearance

Season 5

I'm really sick of you halfwits reverting my changes... Bran and Hodor DO NOT appear in season 5 FFS! I have thoroughly checked my sources, including one where Hodor's actor himself confirmed it, and in the books his story ends there for the moment! Therefore leave it as last appearence season 4 and stop reverting my correct changes because you clearly don't know better!!23.27.248.64 15:51, September 8, 2014 (UTC)Larry

Isaac Hempstead-Wright, who plays Bran has confirmed that he will be appearing in Season 5. The young actress who played Leaf is also confirmed to be returning next year for one episode. It could be that Bran will also just get a single episode in Season 5, but he will be returning. Hodor's actor was speaking for himself.--Ser Patrek (talk) 18:05, September 8, 2014 (UTC)

"I'm really sick of you halfwits reverting my changes...Bran and Hodor DO NOT appear in season 5 FFS!"

Bran does. Isaac confirmed his role in Season 5 during an interview at On Demand Entertainment. Not only that, but he even said so at Comic-Con back in July, when he was promoting the Boxtrolls movie. It doesn't matter what Kristian Nairn says. Isaac should know what he's up to in the next few months. Those other "sources" that you "thoroughly checked" are the same examples of lazy journalism, where they report the rumours as fact instead of seeking confirmation from the producers. Clearly, it's YOU who "doesn't know better"! --Fenrir51 (talk) 21:46, September 8, 2014 (UTC)

Furthermore, Bran's story has not yet reached the end in the books. There are several chapters from ADWD that remain to be adapted.--Ser Patrek (talk) 05:57, September 9, 2014 (UTC)

"Check your sources" -- you mean the ONE interview, which I already wrote up in the article and linked to, and for which I already explained in explicit detail "just because Hodor isn't in Season 5 doesn't mean Bran isn't".  Yeah, you're banned for insulting other people, when in fact you are the one being careless.--The Dragon Demands (talk) 17:17, September 15, 2014 (UTC)

As of the 16th of September, there are still elements of the media still reporting that Bran won't be present next year. Since when did Hodor precede Bran in importance? Do they think they're joined at the hip? Hardly any of them are bothering to check their sources. Utter ineptitude and laziness on their part! Isaac Hempstead-Wright has made it clear, on at least two occasions, that he was in season 5. How does news travel this slowly? --Fenrir51 (talk) 23:55, September 16, 2014 (UTC)

Infobox picture

Where did you get the latest infobox picture from?

Locked after one bad edit

Really? You're definitely overstepping your boundaries at this point. Lksdjf (talk) 07:17, May 23, 2016 (UTC)

The Night King's Mark on Bran

This idea has been getting some traction, but honestly, I don't believe that the mark on Bran's arm, which the Night King gave him in Episode 6x5, is going to make a difference to the Wall being penetrated by the White Walkers and the Army of the Dead.

Back in Season one, the body of a black brother found by Ghost just outside the Wall was re-animated hours after it was brought into Castle Black. Castle Black is on the southern side of the Wall, so any "magical wards" built into the Wall are clearly ineffectual to White Walker magic. Surely, the sheer size of the Wall is itself meant to be the obstacle against an incursion!

I also don't believe that the White Walker mark is a "tracking device" to find Bran, because as we clearly saw in Bran's vision earlier in the same episode, the exterior layout of the cave is the same as it is in the present. The Night King became the first White Walker at this very location, and he obviously remembers it after 8000 years. And let us not forgot that there were wights lying in wait outside the cave, possibly for years, for Bran's party to arrive. And why would the Night King need some mark to track Bran when he demonstrated that he possesses the ability for greensight when he intercepted Bran in a vision to deliver that mark? He can do what Bran and the late Three-eyed Raven does, so he can spy on Bran in the present, and probably predicted long ago that he would come to the cave and predicted he would on on his unauthorized greensight-vision.

The mark had only one purpose. And that was to get into the cave. The fact that they did not attack the Wall straight after Hardhome is clearly due to the holding out of the Children of the Forest and the Three-eyed Raven in that cave. They were perhaps the only true threat, in all the world, to the White Walkers. And now Bran is the Three-eyed Raven, and his place is south of the Wall. ---Fenrir51 (talk) 18:43, June 25, 2016 (UTC)

 Looks like we have some more answers about the mark: I cued up the scene in Ep 2 where Bran says that the Night King's mark will lead him to Bran. The King has a distinct purpose in doing so: he wants to kill Bran to erase the memory of the world, which Bran holds. The editing hold on this one needs to be broken! Quiscustodiet (talk) 17:43, April 29, 2019 (UTC)

page name

I don't get this. He goes by Bran on the show... not even his family calls him Brandon. And the (Son of Eddard) part?? So we're going to do that now behind Robb and all the other kids names? I think it should just be "Bran Stark". QueenBuffy 23:56, July 4, 2016 (UTC)

Agreed. Who thought this was a good idea? If we want to get technical about it, yes, this is who he is. But he is referred to as Bran Stark 99% of the time, and is a major character. The page name should just be left as Bran Stark, and his full name can simply be stated as "Brandon Stark, or simply Bran" in the intro paragraph. Reddyredcp (talk) 00:01, July 5, 2016 (UTC)

His mother calls him Brandon once. In season 4, Leaf also calls Bran "Brandon Stark". Brandon Stark is his full name, Eddard Stark's page is also named "Eddard Stark" instead of Ned Stark, while, like Bran, he is mostly referred to as "Ned" instead of Eddard. As for the (Son of Eddard) part, it makes sense. There is already a Stark born before Bran who was named "Brandon". Just like Aegon Targaryen (Son of Rhaegar). Do we have to rename all the Aegon Targaryen pages to simply "Aegon Targaryen" as well then? Lord Sharky ^(talk) File:House-Bolton-Main-Shield.PNG PINK is the new Black 00:13, July 5, 2016 (UTC)

I don't know, if we go that far, everyone would have that behind their name "Joffrey (Son of Jaime Lannister). I mean.. if it isn't something we use commonly on each page, it doesn't need to be on just one. Also, we usually have pages with what they were mainly called/known... like Bran... or Hodor (not Wylis)... Eddard was used quite frequently, but even it could be changed to Ned and I wouldn't mind. I'm just thinking about what is simpler for the reader who stops by. Chances are, they know him as "Bran". QueenBuffy 00:37, July 5, 2016 (UTC)

Or Daenerys Targaryen (daughter of Aerys II) to distinguish her from Daenerys Targaryen (daughter of Aegon IV), lol. Shaneymike (talk) 00:57, July 5, 2016 (UTC)

Unlocking

Would it be possible for this page to be unlocked too? — Darth Dracarys (talk) 07:05, May 15, 2019 (UTC)

Sure thing. - 07:08, May 15, 2019 (UTC)

The rename

"Bran the Broken I" doesn't make much sense. Is there going to be a Bran the Broken II? --Potsk (talk) 08:04, May 21, 2019 (UTC)

The how he's explicitly named in the show. There's not going to be a Joffrey II either. - 08:10, May 21, 2019 (UTC)

There's still a higher chance for that than another cripple named Bran with the same nickname --Potsk (talk) 09:06, May 21, 2019 (UTC)

A Dream of Spring

Isaac Hempstead-Wright has confirmed that Bran's ending came from GRRM and that he will be king in the books as well. [1]

12:30, May 31, 2019 (UTC)

With GRRM's garden-writing, that's not really a guarantee. Jaime was going to be king too --Potsk (talk) 12:52, May 31, 2019 (UTC)