Even if I am out of here in mere minutes, this is my final comment. I'm done here.
Regardless of what happens, at least I can keep that bit of dignity.
Oh I do. But to answer your question, the initial post was for one thread. But I admit I used bits and sometimes copes to try and defend on others. Ban me if you want. I accept it.
If you want to ban me, go ahead.
Then what must I do in order to back my views up?
*Sigh Fine. But I did agree with everything mentioned. I'm only getting started writing like that, and I was sick and tired of being harassed for my opinions.
But after that, he went down the drain.
I'm afraid it takes more then a comment.
Because you can't laugh at anything that doesn't involve people you don't like being put down?
I absolutely loved the ending to Game of Thrones. I felt like it encapsulated the "morals" of the story and stayed true to the deep motivation core of every single character. I wanted to explain why I thought this was such a fitting ending because it blows my mind that I could see this show and interpret it so differently from others.
First, I want to start off by saying I definitely found faults with this last season (and the other seasons but I am focusing on this season). I thought Bran becoming king was out of nowhere, but I eventually got used to it. I also wished Cersei got a more karmic ending, but a defeat is a defeat. I also thought ALL the Kingdoms should have declared independence. But at least my favorite, The North is free and Sansa so earned that ending!
So, onto the characters. This series has always been about the characters. The world and the conflicts are important but it's really just the collection of stories of people. So to that end, I think it's fitting that the show ends by focusing on the characters. What happens to each arc and how do these people ultimately behave.
Jon Snow is the martyr of the realm. Time and time again, he chooses to make the sacrifices necessary for the greater good. He gives up his happiness with the Wildlings for the greater good. He dies standing up for what is right. He gives up his kingdom and power for the greater good. Jon was deeply disturbed during the destruction of King's Landing and again this leads him to the ultimate sacrifice play - killing his love for his duty to the realm. In their final conversation, Jon knows he could give in and love Dany but he knows that she won't stop. Again he chooses the realm over his own happiness. He is exiled to the wall by King Bran because Bran is the only character (since he's the 3ER) who can see the totality of Jon's life of sacrifice. Bran knows that if Jon is given the choice, he will stay and continue to make sacrifices. So he is given the ultimate reprieve - exile to live with those that he found kinship and respect, the Wildlings. A choice I believe Jon always wanted to make for himself but never allowed himself to because it would be too selfish, in his eyes. This is his rest now that his watch has ended.
Tyrion is our ultimate demonstration of the power of knowledge but ultimately, the power of the knowledge that knowledge is fallible. Tyrion wins the "game of thrones" by convincing a war-torn and ravaged kingdom to finally eschew lineage as the determinant for leadership and to instead elect the leaders by council. He spent the entire final season trying to convince those who didn't want power that that is who deserves power the most and this comes full circle as he has to take up the unwanted mantle of Hand. Tyrion's ultimate wisdom is now found in the power of having made mistakes but being wise enough to learn from them instead of repeat them. True to Bran's words, he will now spend the remainder of his life trying to make up for the mistakes he made in the past due to his arrogance, including the decision that ultimately led to his brother dying beneath King's Landing.
Sansa is the true embodiment of Ned Stark. Initially she is probably the least "Stark-like" out of all the children of Ned but over the show she faces incredible trials and hardships. She shows that true strength of character is born from these trials and she becomes the leader of the North that we've always wanted out of a Stark. She liberates the people and returns her father's kingdom to how it should be - independent. Her worthiness of this title is further emphasized by the fact that she also doesn't feel like she deserved it. She still felt like Jon was the king and an echoing theme throughout all of Game of Thrones is to beware the ruler who believes they deserve the crown.
Arya was always the misfit and her story reflected that. She was always disjointed from the rest of the plot and her ending is the ultimate expression of that. She overcomes her foil of revenge and realizes that there is more to this world than Westeros and the silly games within it. She's finally free to explore the world and live her life without focusing purely on survival and revenge. She and The Hound are juxtaposed in this manner - one is an example of a life ruined by the desire for justice and revenge, the other an example of letting go and freeing yourself to live your life. And, she saved the world, so her faceless man training for not for nothing.
Finally, Daenerys. This is the character that seems to get the most critique in this final season but I think it the ultimate poetic figure in the entire series. We purposefully follow Daenerys when she is taking on those that the reader/viewer will view as evil. We cheer her on (as Tyrion even put it) as she crucifies evil men and liberates entire cities through bloody rebellion because we agree with her judgement on who is good and who is evil. But the ultimate "moral" of the story is to beware of those who are absolute in their judgement and without mercy to those deemed as evil. It is easy to ignore her brutality while we think the others deserved it, but what happens when we no longer agree with her judgements? Jon sees this in her final conversation - others don't get to choose what is good. Dany is the embodiment of what will inevitably happen to every righteous figure who is sure they are on the right path. The ol' "Every villain is the hero of their own story". She legitimately felt like she was right and had to be this tragic figure that ends in death. She is the story of how devastating it can be to the human spirit to feel alone, betrayed and isolated. She is the embodiment of loss and grief. Her final moments are spent in terror as she realizes that she's ultimately lost the last person in her life she truly cared for - Jon. It's heartbreaking and poetic, and I couldn't have pictured a better end to her story without completely betraying her character's ultimate motivations.
So to me, there's no other way to end this series and do justice for these characters. Each character stayed true to their core and finished the story out in a way that made poetic sense considering the lives they had lived. Each teaches us a different lesson about people and about how the world works. And this is what the show always was for me. It was many people making choices and time and time again having to live with those choices. Events happened because the characters always would have made those choices and those choices all had consequences - some good, some bad. Some depending on the point of view.
Bonus: This was focused on the finale but to speak to Jamie and Cersei, since they didn't make it there:
Jamie, is the ultimate depiction of the power of love. But that power isn't always "good". Many, myself included, wanted to see his character arc progress to killing Cersei. He's the Kingslayer and we know that he did so because he thought it was right. He couldn't stand back as the Mad King committed atrocities, so we expect him to do the same with Cersei. Had that happened, I think it would have been the easy and unrealistic depiction of Jamie's character. His love for Cersei has corrupted him and he is trapped in that cycle of abuse. He also didn't think he deserved to be free of it. When he leaves Winterfell, he leaves knowing that he doesn't deserve this good life and he feels that way because he's trapped in this abusive cycle. It's not always as simple as realizing you are in an abusive relationship to end it, and Jamie shows us the downfall that can be love. His love for Cersei leads him to endanger his brother's life and to ultimate die trying to save Cersei.
And Cersei's ending, despite being un-kamric in my view, ends on a note that makes sense. Cersei shows us from a different perspective that love can corrupt. Her love for her children, specifically, enabled her to rationalize the evils that she did in the later seasons. Like Dany, she believes she is in the right but unlike Dany, we (the viewers) are never aligned with her decisions. This causes us to never root for her or understand her decisions and this shows how powerful our perceptions and judgements can be. She's the foil to Dany because each are equally capable of death and destruction but we only despised and condemned one of them. She serves to further illustrate how dangerous power can be. And finally, in her final moments we see her true character break through one last time. Deep down, she's broken from the decisions she's made. She's scarred. And she dies horrified at the thought of failing to protect yet another child. She's an incredibly human character and reminds us few people are purely evil and that behind most atrocities, there's a human with human experiences that we can all empathize with, even if we still condemn the actions.
As for the Night King, that plot shows that for all the elements of more supernatural dark fantasy found in it, Game of Thrones, books and show is a fantasy about internal power grabs, where the real monster is humanity. Me and others have seen the WW as metaphors for climate change, only few people take them serious. Even if we can stop it, it won't save the world for humanity's own faults.
Careful though, because "civilized" people, can be just as cruel as the worst barbarian.
Except walls can't talk back.
"Civilized" is a broad term though.
Sometimes defeat can make a man more stubborn.
I don't respect those I fear.