Board Thread:TV Show Discussion/@comment-31721275-20170411220547/@comment-27751431-20170417104454

The Dragon Demands wrote: Martin made the story, the showrunners really got lazy and made bad decisions in later seasons.

If you have a Shakespeare adaptation, who "made" it?

If you have a live-action Lord of the Rings movie series, who "made" it, Jackson or Tolkien?

I will say that Martin didn't have much input in later seasons - he's a LIVING author - so the showrunners apparently started ignoring him and just writing what they felt like. I've even seen a few people stupidly arguing that this means Martin must support what they're doing - he doesn't. He's barely involved at this point.

Short answer is that the TV show is derived from the books...and problems happened when the TV show started drastically deviating from it.

...what do you mean "outside of fan view"? Even non-book readers got upset with wacky changes that the showrunners made over time - because they don't fit well with the rest of the established storyverse.

No, this isn't some "intriguing" phenomenon to write about, NOT the usual "books vs TV series" stuff you saw in any adaptation, like Peter Jackson's Lord of the Rings vs hardcore book fans.

Even TV critics really...really think that the showrunners are morons at this point. George had to finish the Winds of Winter, so he stepped down as a executive producer so he could finish it. I expect that he will return as a producer if he finishes the book before the series ends.