Board Thread:TV Show Discussion/@comment-1399600-20160629121258/@comment-5308269-20170727162210

Kai200995 wrote:

Fenrir51 wrote:

You could repeat yourself 5000 times and you'd still miss the premise that the Kingship of the North is dependent on the possession of the estate of Winterfell, as I've just explained to you and others multiple times on this thread. Youd can't be King in the North WITHOUT being Lord of Winterfell in the same way as one can't be Lord of the Seven Kingdoms without being ruler of King's Landing.

You can't be Lord Paramount of the Stormlands without being Lord of Storm's End.

You can't be Lord Paramount of the Westerlands without being Lord of Casterly Rock.

You can't be Lord Paramount of the Reach without being Lord of Highgarden.

You can't be Prince of Dorne without being Lord of Sunspear.

Get it?!? It's "really not that complicated"! YAWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWN

The facts:
 * Sansa is still Lady of Winterfell, while Jon is King in the North according to HBO's Viewer's Guide. (because the titles aren't the same)
 * "Lord Paramount" is a title granted by the monarchy to those Houses charged with ruling an entire region. Lord Paramounts have changed throughout the series
 * Lord Paramount literally had nothing to do with this discussion.
 * You want to know how the Kingship of the North and the Trident isn't reliant on being the head of the principal House in the region? Look no further :
 * Robb was King of the Trident while Edmure was Lord of Riverrun
 * Jon is King in the North while Sansa is Lady of Winterfell.

It's still really not that complicated ;)

'PSA: Keep the attitude on a minimum. I created this thread to share ideas and information on the subject of the remaining Stark children and their political positions and influence. Right now Jon is KitN and Sansa is LoW, Brain position is to be determined once he arrives in Winterfell, and Arya as the youngest has no formal position. The end.'

'''Who's head of House Stark?  ''As siblings, with two of them in significant positions ruling in the name of House Stark, each have a say in the political decisions of House Stark. However, Jon Snow as the sovereign of the entire Northern realm, including Winterfell, has the final say of the affairs of the realm, and within House Stark since he outranks Sansa Stark (current Lord of Winterfell). Hence, Jon Snow is the de facto head of House Stark, Sansa Stark is officially head of House Stark as the only present Stark with the name. Unless both Jon and Sansa hand over their titles, Bran will not have any official influence on House Stark decisions but will more than likely be an advisor, same goes for Arya.'

Time will tell.

If you're going to pull rank and lecture people on their attitudes, you might try living up to it by not responding with an exaggerated yawn and being condescending. I pointed out the inconsistencies in your posts, and got some dismissive BS for my trouble. Whatever!