Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-29325269-20160825231936/@comment-5308269-20160826022948

GoT Dawn wrote: Fenrir5: Please let me know your thought about why the Gorge could not cover an ice river to walk around the Wall by the dead army? The Gorge comes from fresh-water to freeze that doesn’t matter how long and depth a river goes, especially the GoT theory have years/thousands with the Long Night will happen of winter to freeze at top of the North.



The Wall was created with ice (material) and requires a cold area. As current these summers, the maps only have snow area above the Brandon’s Gift and the New Gift. It’s just my thought about a better location to cover sea to sea a barrier with material. Ice will not freeze, because sea water comes from saltwater. They could use a better material to use wood/tree and stone at have a different location that cannot to walk around the Wall.

If the Wall failed, right now, the only option is to establish a secondary defense location to stop the North that invades the dead army. The North area has an extensive area between east and west for miles. The only location to choke a defense location and stop the dead army is at the Moat Cailin that only has 20 miles; a naturally location for years a strategic stronghold.

The Gorge is not a river - it's a an uninventively-named gorge. It's too wide to be a river, and is simply just a narrow point in the Bay of Ice. And Bay of Ice is just an arm of the Sunset Sea to the west of Westeros. Ocean currents are able to prevent the ice from completely freezing over, so no stable surface would be sustainable from those waters.

The Wall is COVERED by ice. The structure is made of stone. And no, as of Season 6, it is NOT summer anymore. And building a new Wall south of Brandon's gift would take YEARS, which no has because of the White Walkers. It will require a lot of devoted manpower, which no one noble house in the North can spare, in light of the White Walker invasion being imminent. It will cost a lot of money, which the Northerners are not known to have in abundance. Even if they did have time for this nonsense, borrowing from the Iron Bank of Braavos would be out of the question, because they need a return on their investment, and a massive Wall astride a continent isn't going to satisfy that demand.

The Wall IS going to fail (and not because of Bran Stark, as most people tend to think) because there just aren't enough Night's Watch to hold them back. This is happening! So what they need to do is fall back to their castles, and try to co-ordinate their attacks on the White Walkers' army to slow down their advance to the south. Building a new wall is just out of the question now.