Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-4708902-20160726013945/@comment-5308269-20160901014455

Shaneymike wrote: "Right now, the Northerners should be focusing on the Night King and his army of the dead, not who rules them."
 * sigh* This is going to be my last response. Right now, the Northerners should be focusing on the Night King and his army of dead, not who rules them. If the Northerners are really so narrow-minded that they will flat out reject any and all help from the South in defeating the Night King, even if that means giving up their independence, then they are a sorry lot indeed. I still think you're being presumptuous in saying the North will abandon Jon, or vice versa, if his true parentage is revealed but I know there's no use trying to convince you otherwise. You go on telling yourself that we're all stupid except you. I don't give a shit.

Be that as it may, their other pre-occupation was to ensure their country didn't fall under foreign dominion, which was why they toppled the quisling Boltons from power (Ramsay's cruelty and Roose's treachery notwithstanding). And they're not going to completely abandon the rule of law just because of an imminent invasion.

I never said they would flatout reject help from the south, but that doesn't mean they should kowtow to them if they don't have to. They made Jon their king, and if he's willing to sacrifice the North's independence in exchange for security, then what was the point of all these people dying? By the way, most of the North, let alone the rest of Westeros, doesn't even know or believe that the White Walkers are coming. As far the rest of the Northerners are concerned, the restoration of House Stark was about their independence from the south.

"I still think you're being presumptuous in saying the North will abandon Jon, or vice versa, if his true parentage is revealed but I know there's no use trying to convince you otherwise."

It is not presumptuous for explaining how their society works. Predicting how the North would react to Jon Snow's non-existent claim to Winterfell and the North is exactly like predicting how half of the Seven Kingdoms reacted to Joffrey's illegitimate birth. There was a civil war fought over it, remember? It was a major storyline between seasons 1-3. If the Northerners find out Jon's a false-king, some of them will plot to remove him and place one of their preferred candidates on the throne. Yes, they indeed are a "sorry lot" considering that most wouldn't even help Sansa and Jon until Winterfell was retaken, so it isn't "presumptuous" of me to reckon on their reactions.

"You go on telling yourself that we're all stupid except you. I don't give a shit."

I'm not telling myself you're all stupid! You should know better.