User talk:Werthead

Thoros of Myr
http://eternal0aranel.tumblr.com/post/26434603378/thoros-of-myr-cast

I don't know what to make of it. It's not what he looks like in my head.--Mesmermann 23:28, July 3, 2012 (UTC)


 * Check this out: http://twitter.com/asimaahmad/status/220103162240053248  Curiouser and curiouser.--The Dragon Demands 23:44, July 3, 2012 (UTC)

Comic-Con
Greetings! You may already know, but GOT will be involved with Comic-Con this year. Wikia will have a physical presence at the 'Con once again, and we've created this badge:

to remind users of this, and provide them with a link to Comic-Con Wiki. There, we will be updating live for the duration of the event with images, info, and exclusives for those users who are unable to be there in person. Would you be willing to allow this badge on the main page here (hopefully at the top of the right column) until the conclusion of the event? Please hit me up on my TALK PAGE and let me know either way so I can add it, or make a note that you've declined affiliation. You're welcome to add it yourself using the code above, but please drop me a note as well so I can track which wikis are participating. Thank you for your time! :)
 * http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o297/SCOTIMUS76/siggy4.png (profile)•(talk)•(email) 00:55, July 6, 2012 (UTC)


 * I've added this as it might get us more traffic and doesn't harm the site in any way.--Opark 77 13:41, July 7, 2012 (UTC)

Religion articles
Please weigh in on this discussion, Ser: http://gameofthrones.wikia.com/wiki/Talk:Great_Stallion#Content. I've been rounding out the religion articles. Should we have separate articles for "The Seven" and "Faith of the Lord of Light", or follow AWOIAF's convention of "Faith of the Seven" (used as an actual term in thee books), and "Lord of Light"? (because "Faith of the Lord of Light" isn't an actual phrase they use). I'm in favor of treating "Great Stallion", "Drowned God", etc. as the de facto main pages for "Dothraki religion" and "Ironborn religion", given the vast amount of overlap that would result (seriously, how much do we have to say about the specific legends and antics of the Drowned God? He fights with the Storm God.  That isn't useful for a whole page....wikis are not paper, but we have to think of ease of navigation (I also made a new Religion navigation template including these names).  Please weigh in.--The Dragon Demands 00:06, July 7, 2012 (UTC)

Map images
Great job on the map images, they are a big improvement to the location articles and very welcome. You're continued effort on them is very much appreciated.--Opark 77 20:59, July 8, 2012 (UTC)

Computer game info
Should we make any notes regarding the computer games at all? I thought they were unrelated to the TV series. http://gameofthrones.wikia.com/wiki/Blackwater_Rush?diff=51819&oldid=39203 --The Dragon Demands 01:53, July 9, 2012 (UTC)

Casting
Any chance you can come on chat so we can co-ordinate writing articles for new cast members?--Opark 77 22:28, July 13, 2012 (UTC)

Apostrophes
Why do you keep using apostrophes as full quotation marks? This should only be done in the case of a quote within a quote. This wiki conforms to standard American English, and unlike British English, regular quotations must be made only with full quotation marks. I've been fixing these whenever I see them. --The Dragon Demands (talk) 00:14, July 19, 2012 (UTC)

Ironborn
My apologies, I didn't realize that lowercase "ironborn" was standard; I got it bacwards and thought it was capitalized. I will now enforce the proper lowercase convention.--The Dragon Demands (talk) 00:14, July 19, 2012 (UTC)

Stormlands map image
The Stormlands map image needs some adjustment, http://gameofthrones.wikia.com/wiki/File_talk:The_Stormlands.png --The Dragon Demands (talk) 17:25, July 29, 2012 (UTC)

Images
I'm still finding problematic images from you, including the latest two from today. Please could you take a look at our image policy. For each image that we use we need to ensure that we have the following information on the image page, all of which should be added by the uploader at the point of upload:
 * 1) The source (naming the video clip or episode for screenshots and providing a URL for images from other websites)
 * 2) A description (state what the image shows)
 * 3) A licensing tag ( for screenshots)
 * 4) Appropriate categories (e.g. Category: Image (Valar Morghulis) and Category: Image (Character) for screenshots of characters from "Valar Morghulis", to add categories type )

Please add this information yourself to images that you upload. If you fail to do so I will let you know and nominate the image in question for deletion. I will then review it 1 week later and will be happy if you have added the required information so we can keep it, otherwise I will have to delete it. If you need assistance adding the required information just let me know and I will do my best to help.

I highly recommend working from a template when uploading images. Personally I always copy and paste this for screenshots:

==Summary==

This image is a screencap from "EPISODE." The image is copyrighted by HBO. This image is used with the permission of HBO but on the understanding that it can be removed at any time. The image shows DESCRIPTION.

==Licensing==

Then I only need to fill in the name of the episode and a brief description. For images from other websites I use this:

==Summary==

This is a promotion image of DESCRIPTION from [URL WEBSITE].

==Licensing==

Then I only need to fill in a description, the source and choose a category e.g. Category:Image (Actor).

I've just been through the last months worth of uploaded images. You are still not adding a description or a source to the majority of your uploads. I have tagged the ones I cannot fix on my own for deletion, please can you sort them out. The latest two today don't have licensing tags either.

Please can you say where you get an image from - we can't claim we are making fair use of an image unless we establish that we know who the copyright holder is. Please can you give a URL if they come from another website.

Please can you state what your images show - this allows someone who is not familiar with the content to read the description and work out who or what is in the image, this is especially useful to editors when they are working with galleries and writing captions for images that they did not upload.

I've been asking you to follow the image policy for several months now, I am starting to feel really discouraged by seemingly being ignored. I have archived your talk page in case you have been missing my messages because they are not at the bottom of your talk page.--Opark 77 (talk) 15:51, July 23, 2012 (UTC)

As I said, I was concerned that you have not been reading my messages and that is born out by your suggestion that I last contacted you about this in May.
 * Here are my edits on June 14.
 * Here are my edits from last night.

I am upset that you think I am not showing good form. I think it is reasonable to offer to work with uploaders to add the required information themselves. I have found that I am spending upwards of 8 hours of editing time every month working on our images. I initially tried to do everything myself. I found that it was such a drain on my time resources that I was not contributing what I wanted to the wiki, and was not enjoying the time I volunteered here. With the aim of spending less time working on the site's images I came up with the idea that I would do it for an editor the first time they got it wrong and then show them what I had done so they could replicate that next time. I would then expect them to be able to follow the policy but would be open to helping them if they did not understand what to do.

Where I know that I have made an editor aware of the policy, they have not responded to my message and they are continuing to break the policy then I threaten deletion of their images. Yes I am able to correct some of these images but I do not think it is right for this wiki to rely solely on my time to get the images in the state we want them. I am happy to be the lead editor in curating our images. I am happy to spend more time on it than anyone else does. However, I do want the rest of the community here to try to work with me. I have tried a softly softly approach and have been ignored. I am now trying to be more assertive about images to protect my limited time resources. I can do everything here, but I don't have time to. It is not fair of you to place expectations on me to handle all of our image issues when I am a volunteer just like anyone.

I have been open and polite in my messages. I have invited people to come back to me for help if they need it. I am saying this is wrong and you got it wrong so the onus is on you to fix it. I am happy to help you to fix it. If you are not willing to put the effort into getting it right then I am afraid we can not use it. I don't think that is bad form. I think it is a fair and reasonable way of ensuring a decent standard of image uploading from our contributors while leaving me with enough time to contribute to other areas of the wiki. Have you got a better way of handling this?--Opark 77 (talk) 17:15, July 23, 2012 (UTC)

You can check the history of your talk page to see who edited it and when. That way you don't need to re-read anything and can see exactly what was added. I didn't realise that you weren't aware of this functionality. I regret that my messages failed to reach you. I avoided adding them to the foot of the page because repeating the same header more than once in an article breaks the section linking. In future I will try to be inventive with my topic names so that things go to the foot of your talk page.

That aside I would still appreciate a response about how you would like to handle image policy violations in future. Have you got an alternate approach? Do you still think I was showing bad form?--Opark 77 (talk) 21:30, July 23, 2012 (UTC)

Thank you for your kind words about my contributions.

I don't think it is appropriate or fair to call the Image Policy at present Draconian. It is not prescribing death for any who violate it, it merely asks the uploader to provide four simple pieces of information about the image they are adding. My approach to enforcing the policy is to point out where people have failed to meet these simple requirements, offer help and a one week window to correct them, and then to delete the image if it is still not up to our standard.

I also disagree with your characterisation of requiring four bits of information as constituting a "lengthy form". If you use the cut and paste templates that I have taken the time to provide then it is even less information, because the licensing tag is already in place for you.

Parts of the image policy originated with you. It was you who wrote that you wanted to avoid uploading duplicate images to the wiki. In order to weed out duplicate images it is necessary to appropriately categorize and name the images we have so that they can easily be compared to one another. I have spent hours going through our images to weed out duplicates and to ensure that they are correctly categorized because you asked that we avoid duplicates. Having reached a high standard of image use because of the efforts of myself and others, I think it behooves us as a wiki to have an image policy that maintains that standard, rather than allowing poor (or no) categorization and random image names to eradicate the hard work that has been done.

I am taking sole responsibility for policing the simple image policy that I modified. However, I don't believe that policing the image policy translates into me being left to do all the work on every image that fails to meet the requirements of the policy. I think it should be enough that I rigorously check every image that is uploaded and then enter a dialogue with the uploader where they have failed to meet the requirements of the policy, explaining where they have failed and what they need to do to correct it. If the uploader is not willing to spend further time getting their images up to the standard we require then I think it is reasonable for me to also spend no further time on that image, and to remove it for failing to meet our simple, four piece of information minimum. Nothing deleted from a wiki is ever truly gone, we have a deletion log and anyone with admin rights can restore deleted images where the uploader comes back with good reason to do so.

I am not saying that I don't have time to police the policy. I am saying that I am at the limit of the time I have and therefore will not spend time policing the policy and then doing all the work to correct any violations of the policy. I am happy to go on patrolling new images and discussing images that fail to meet our requirements with the uploader. I object to being told that doing so is bad form. I think I am being reasonable and fair in my approach. Once again I am asking if you have an alternative approach that you would like me to follow?

If you disagree with the image policy then by all means we should start a wider discussion about it. I think the onus is on you to do that because you are the one objecting to it.--Opark 77 (talk) 10:44, July 29, 2012 (UTC)

Absence
I am sorry I've been barely active the past week or two, and particularly this weekend. I have been preparing for my sister's wedding (which I have mentioned before). It will last the rest of today, Sunday, and now I must go out the door to leave for the wedding ceremony itself.

If I'm not back, avenge my death.--The Dragon Demands (talk) 18:00, August 5, 2012 (UTC)

Faith of the Seven merge
I merged the content from "the Seven" into "Faith of the Seven"; how does it look? Should we delete "The Seven"? Or are all of the extra images of the Seven (which I added in a Gallery) too clunky, thus warranting a separate page? I do hope later seasons show us more artwork of the Seven from the insides of septs and such. But for now, I don't know. At any rate, this is what it would look like if all the content from "the Seven" were indeed merged. I leave the decision to you, ser.--The Dragon Demands (talk) 19:47, August 10, 2012 (UTC)

Good Game Review
Hi Werthead--

I'm the new gaming guy inside Wikia, and I noticed your review of the Game of Thrones RPG. I loved it - very well written with some good arguments made. This is a bit outside of the Game of Thrones wiki, but I'm wondering if you're interested in doing more long-form pieces for Wikia in the games category.

What are those pieces, you ask? Um, I have no idea as of yet. But there are a bunch of big games coming out over the next few months, and I'm sure we could figure something out.

Ping me if you're interested and, regardless, I loved the GOT RPG review. Hope all is well!

George lizzunchbox

All roads lead to King's Landing
Your input would be greatly valued, Ser: Particularly, I'm confused about where exactly the Battle of the Trident occurred, the crossings of the River Road or of the Kingsroad, and which of those two crossings is thus the "Ruby Ford". Moreover, why would the rebel army, after coming from the Battle of the Bells in the Riverlands, be coming from the north side of the Trident to the ford? My functional guess is that they were already in the process of retreating north to join with their Stark and Arryn allies after Ashford...but those allies already met them at Stony Sept. Maybe they pulled back north of the Trident to consolidate? --The Dragon Demands (talk) 14:17, September 21, 2012 (UTC)


 * I see. Well, I think that we can logically conclude that the Kingsroad crossing is the Ruby Ford, on account of the fact that when the royal/Stark party is heading from Winterfell to King's Landing via the King's Road, Arya leaves within walking distance to check out the "Ruby Ford" for all the rubies. In and of itself that seems to fit. The bigger question is why the rebel army would be on the north side of the river after mostly joining up at the Battle of the Bells; but its already been strongly implied that Robert wanted to retreat north to consolidate his strength. I mean the war lasted over a year between Gulltown and when the Siege of Storms End was lifted; maybe months were spent as each side consolidated after the Bells, with Rhaegar raising the Crownlands army joined by the Dornish, while the rebels consolidated north of the Trident. Though there are some questions about the location of the Battle of the Green Fork. Well, I'm not going to worry about the battle things too much as we have Lands of Ice and Fire coming up eventually. This should at least answer the roads questions. --The Dragon Demands (talk) 00:30, September 25, 2012 (UTC)

Concept art
I'm not sure how or if we can use screenshots of this concept art ( of the White Walkers, or link to it, or perhaps make an article about the concept artist, I'm not sure.--The Dragon Demands (talk) 23:58, October 9, 2012 (UTC)

Yi Ti
Please remind me; in which episode is Yi Ti mentioned?


 * Yi Ti is mentiond in the companion book Inside HBO's Game of Thrones, which is a canon resource for the Wiki to use since it was written by producer-writer Bryan Cogman.--Werthead (talk) 17:26, October 18, 2012 (UTC)

Hello. I'm a brazilian journalist writing a piece about the speculations surrounding G.R.R.M'S The Winds of Winter and A Dream of Spring. Could I send you a couple of questions on the subject? Thanks a lot!

My email is jfranciscobotelho@yahoo.com.br.

José Francisco Botelho – Superinteressante Magazine.

Steelshanks
​Bran has never been referred to as "Brandon", yet he's listed as such. Under that precedent I think the article should return to its previous name.Gonzalo84 (talk) 06:25, December 27, 2012 (UTC)
 * I think that might be excessive in Bran's case, given how prevalent "Brandon" is in established Stark names like "Bran/Brandon the Builder" etc.--The Dragon Demands (talk) 19:47, December 27, 2012 (UTC)

Grand Maester
Regarding Grand Maester; is the Grand Maester the head of the order of Maesters, much as the High Septon is head of the Faith of the Seven? Or is the ruling body the assembled Conclave of Archmaesters? Was there a Grand Maester before the Targaryen Conquest, or was it specifically created for the Red Keep and king on the Iron Throne? While we're on the subject, am I correct in assuming that literally no indication has been given in the books about the origins and development of the maesters? My guess is that this has something to do with the subplot about how the maesters are trying to make a world without magic, based on science and reason; that their origins have some plot relevance. Suffice to say, my assumption was that they are a creation of the Andals, brought over in the Andal Invasion, but even this I'm not sure on. I'm going to fix up the Maesters page but I really need you to double-check it.--The Dragon Demands (talk) 15:49, January 17, 2013 (UTC)
 * Agreed; indeed, I kind of assumed (well, hoped) that we will be finding out more about the Maesters in World of Ice and Fire; and given that it will give us the definitive answers in a year or so, I'm content with just tabling the issue. Anyway, I did a major revamp of the Maesters page, please double-check (I don't mean to shove work onto others, I mean word of admins is final, so if my attempts don't match standards I hope someone else can fix them up; but I like to think I get the ball rolling).--The Dragon Demands (talk) 17:57, January 20, 2013 (UTC)

Formal vote for banning needs your attention
I've started a formal vote to ban Ch'Vyalthan:. I have assembled a long list of evidence, but please read through all of it. I started the vote last Tuesday, so it should be due next Tuesday, but he's really not getting the message and is binge-editing even more. I think we at least need the other (active) admins to weigh in on the matter. --The Dragon Demands (talk) 19:09, January 25, 2013 (UTC)

Thank you for your attention, but two questions about your response:


 * Late in the day, but I agree. I haven't been as active day-to-day as in the past recently, as other people have been doing a great job getting on with things. If I'd know about this, I'd have contributed sooner. What is more concerning is this pattern of behaviour recurring on the ASoIaF Wikia, which is going to have to be addressed there as well.

1 - Does this mean you favor a permanent ban, not just a one month ban? (see subheading "blocking" on the ban vote page, where I just raised this question).

2 - What pattern of behavior over on the ASOIAF wikia? I'm aware that he's been posting there but didn't know how horrendous it was. We started noticing that, possibly due to Wiki-Addiction in the past 3-4 weeks when (due to Christmas break) more of us had time to respond to Ch'Vyalthan's antics, when we began to block, revise, or revert his crazy editing, he'd apparently burn off his excess energy, his excess compulsion to edit, by spending time over on the ASOIAF Wikia...even as Gonzalo84 was directly ordering him to immediately clean up editing messes he'd created. I'm not aware of specifics, however, I was going to suggest that you use your admin powers over on ASOIAF wikia to ban him from there as well, because A - from what I saw, his work wasn't that great there, and B - to prevent him from repositioning himself there, possibly leading to an ugly confrontation down the road. He needs to be out, away from anything online Game of Thrones wiki related.--The Dragon Demands (talk) 20:37, January 26, 2013 (UTC)


 * I have gone over to ASoIaF wikia and noticed that, indeed, Ch'vyalthan's work there is just as bad as his activity here.--Gonzalo84 (talk) 06:57, January 28, 2013 (UTC)


 * This matter still needs attention.--The Dragon Demands (talk) 00:41, February 2, 2013 (UTC)

Has a decision been reached on this permanent banning? (Forum:Formal request to permanently ban Ch'vyalthan).--The Dragon Demands (talk) 23:18, February 2, 2013 (UTC)

Wikia Alliances
Hello Werthead!

First off, thanks for participating in the Wikia Wide Fantasy Fellowship! We're bringing that web ring to a close, as you may have noticed. However, the event was such a success that we want to launch another opportunity to tie wiki communities closer together and promote all your wonderful content!

There are actually three alliances to choose from: Fantasy, Sci-Fi, and Heroes! All are broadly defined, so your wiki may fit. Check out the Alliance Page for more details and fill out the Choose Your Alliance Page to sign up!

Best, Jorge (profile)•(talk) 00:17, January 30, 2013 (UTC)

Summer Islands and Sothoryos
I added the Summer Islands to the Sothoryos template and added the Sothoryos navbox to the Summer Islands; technically they're sort of like the Azores or Canary Islands, far out into the sea and not quite part of any continent. However, I think we should loosely consider them as part of Sothoryos on the wiki because: 1 - culturally/ethnically, the inhabitants of both the Summer Islands and Sothoryos are notably dark-skinned, and thus not really like Westeros or Essos, 2 - Having received my copy of The Lands of Ice and Fire, we can confirm that the northernmost of the Summer Islands is sort of equidistant from Westeros and Essos, while the southern end is also equidistant from Sothoryos. It's roughly equidistant from all three continents. However, if we associate it with no continent at all, it will be more difficult for TV-first readers to find (a book-first fan might encounter "Summer Islands" in text and look it up; but a TV-first fan going through this wiki has to stumble across it, if we're lucky). Thus it makes more sense to associate the Summer Islands with one of the three continents instead of leaving them isolated, and Sothoryos makes the most sense out of the three. What do you think, ser?--The Dragon Demands (talk) 13:42, February 1, 2013 (UTC)


 * What do we do about Ibben or Great Moraq... I think those should be considered "indenpendent" islands.--Gonzalo84 (talk) 15:39, February 1, 2013 (UTC)
 * Well, much as Iceland is lumped in with Europe, I'd put Ibben with Essos: seeing as the Ibbenese also have colonies along the north shore of Essos. Real-life "continents" are often based on tectonic plates and fault lines, though in the age of discovery or even ancient times this was often arbitrary. Where did Aristotle think "Africa" ended and "Asia" began? Sothoryos and Ibben aside...I have no frelling idea how to handle Great Moraq. Is it considerd part of Essos, Sothoryos, or possibly neither? Other than that the Stone Cow of Faros is there (which would imply it is urbanized and not uninhabited like the Isle of Cedars), we have no real information on the place. This is of course presuming that Season 3's Viewer's Guide map will be updated to reflect The Lands of Ice and Fire. I checked internet archive, and the new viewer's guide last season only went up within a week's time of the premiere. And again, my bigger concern is for TV-first fans who might not know what they're looking for, so we should put these things into existing templates instead of isolating them, for ease of access.--The Dragon Demands (talk) 16:51, February 1, 2013 (UTC)


 * Okay then. So the decision is: the Summer Islands are independent of any continent, Great Moraq isn't in the TV series yet so we shouldn't waste time on it, and Ibben should probably be part of Essos.--The Dragon Demands (talk) 14:09, February 2, 2013 (UTC)

Season 2 deleted scenes
The Season 2 box set apparently includes 4 deleted scenes; Varys and Littlefinger after Blackwater, Loras and Margaery as Loras mourns Renly's death, Sandor asking "little bird" Sansa to sing, and Doreah killing Irri. How should we handle these deleted scenes? We've already made note of the Doreah scene, and I think that a it stands we consider it "non-canonical" (as it wasn't in the books, isn't in a finished episode, and wildly out of character). The SanSan scene didn't really add much that was "new" though it incorporated a bit more of that book subplot (more of a nod; they've turned Sansa into just a victim, not planning escape, though I understand time constraints limited this); Varys and Littlefinger doesn't really add much either; I mean it's good acting but it's kind of a retread of earlier stuff (maybe they could move it to the Season 3 premiere?). But out of all four, the one with the Tyrells is a real shame that it wasn't in a finished episode: we actually see Margaery and Loras interacting as siblings, which we barely saw before in Season 2, plus actually following through on Loras mourning Renly (I don't think Margaery was being condescending, just that as in the finished episode when Littlefinger comes in, she isn't trying to belittle Loras' pain, just pointing out that they're in danger and must think quickly to plan their next move). Enjoyable to show (if my hopeful interpretation is true) that the Tyrells have none of the internal rivalries in the Lannisters or Baratheons (or even the Starks). I enjoyed it most just because it was starting to show plot dynamics centering around groups of characters or other major Houses other than the Starks and Lannisters, i.e. when we get scenes just about the Greyjoys; much as the books start out focusing on the Starks and Lannisters, but gradually widens to become more complex and show other Houses with their own agendas and even their own narrative POV (i.e. the Martells have no particular stake in the Starks). So the point is I feel bad that this Tyrell scene was simply deleted; is there any way we can put it in an article? It doesn't violate continuity, I think it was just cut for time; Memory Alpha often puts info from deleted scene into the core text of a character article, but in a separate italicized out-of-universe paragraph explaining "this was from a deleted scene".--The Dragon Demands (talk) 18:28, February 22, 2013 (UTC)


 * I agree these should be added, along with the proper deleted scene tag.--Gonzalo84 (talk) 18:55, February 22, 2013 (UTC)

TidyNetwork in-text advertisements
I'm noticing a lot of in-text linked advertisements for something called TidyNetwork - is this some sort of new ad program by Wikia, or a virus in my computer? If so, how should I address this? Google search is proving unreliable.--The Dragon Demands (talk) 22:59, February 23, 2013 (UTC)


 * No, wait, these "TidyNetwork" in-text ad links are even appearing on messageboards, it appears to be my browser/computer. I'm not sure of how to remove this; do you know of any trusted removal tools?--The Dragon Demands (talk) 15:04, February 24, 2013 (UTC)

Vandals Is Coming
With Season 3 just weeks away, the amount of vandals will surely increase. Are we going to take special measures, or we'll just cleanup after each vandalism or spamming like last year?. Keep in mind that last year we suffered a massive vandal attack that took several hours to repair. At the very least I think we should elevate The Dragon Demands to admin so he can help us weed out and cleanup these interventions.--Gonzalo84 (talk) 21:19, February 25, 2013 (UTC)

New Layout
Also, with the new dragon-shadow poster already published I think we should adapt the wiki layout.--Gonzalo84 (talk) 21:19, February 25, 2013 (UTC)

Affiliates
Hello! With Game of Thrones coming back so soon, how would you feel about starting up an Affiliates program on this wiki to get more traffic and visitors? It is a great site and we could showcase it a bit more by getting word out to other wikis and external websites so people can see all the hard work you and other admins have put into it! Affiliating with other sites can bring more traffic from external websites which would benefit the wiki in the long run.

For examples on how the affiliate program works, check out the Hunger Games Wiki and Shadowhunters Wiki! It would be set up in exactly the same format with a link on the navigation bar for people to see. Please let me know if you are interested in this and I will start reaching out to other sites!

Grace 00:48, February 26, 2013 (UTC)

wait. how did you send me a message

are you on, you just sent me a message, or was it a bot. I put the huge spoilet on robs page

Layout
I am currently working with the Wikia Staff to spruce up the Wiki to Season 3 of GoT. 18:09, February 26, 2013 (UTC)

Pre-emptive Locking
I've already had to ban someone today for Red Wedding vandalism. While we have some vandalism now and again for things like "What Dany does in Season 3", possibly even "how Jaime gets injured in Season 3" (we'll have to keep an eye on that one in particular)...nothing, oh but nothing, can match the drive with which vandals will come out of the woodwork to post spoilers related to the Red Wedding. It's the single most shocking event in the series (arguably more than Ned dying, given how sudden it was, and in the sheer scale of it) But this isn't just a future possibility; we've already seen, time and again, since Season 1 that the vandals feel utterly compelled to come onto this wiki to spoil this...now it's almost upon us.

To this end, I propose that we lock the following articles from Anonymous editing immediately:


 * Robb Stark
 * Catelyn Stark
 * Grey Wind
 * Direwolves
 * Walder Frey
 * Roose Bolton
 * The Twins

And if vandals create new accounts simply for the sake of adding such things we may have to upgrade the lock, but we'll wait until it comes to that.--The Dragon Demands (talk) 18:53, February 26, 2013 (UTC)


 * I have gone ahead and locked the mentioned articles, and House Frey as well. New and unregistered users won't be able to edit them until we see fit. --Gonzalo84 (talk) 19:05, February 26, 2013 (UTC)

Color scheme
I had prepared a new color scheme for the wiki in preparation for season 3, since this black and orange was set up for Season 2. Once the new layout is available I'll set it up.Gonzalo84 (talk) 17:03, February 27, 2013 (UTC)


 * What do you think of the new color scheme?--Gonzalo84 (talk) 20:28, February 27, 2013 (UTC)

Wikia front page House game?
Given that Ch'Vyalthan shut is down for three months (over Christmas Break no less, when we have the most possible free time to work), the Season 3 premiere is only 26 days away, yet we still need to heavily revise and edit Season 1 and to an extent Season 2. We didn't "finish" many of these things, the few of us who stayed in the off-season were overburdened with work.

This is not a forum, it is a wiki. A dedicated, serious attempt to make a mature, professional encyclopedic guide to Game of Thrones. It is not an imageboard.

As I said, we are currently facing our "nightmare scenario" of barely 26 days to go, yet a massive backlog of work. Under 10 regulars are producing this "actual work" while we keep getting flybys on blogs which produce nothing of substance....and serve to distract from actual contributions to the wiki itself.

Who is User:Porterfield, who has now inserted some sort of Wikia House contest onto our front page? We didn't ask for this, it's a distraction, and it shoved Mance Rayder off the front page.

He shouldn't be able to do this without consulting us. Did he consult you before doing this? Making it a blog post would be one thing, I don't support having it on our front page. --The Dragon Demands (talk) 19:41, March 5, 2013 (UTC)

Starter Guide Video
Hey there, I created a video that's a recap of seasons 1 and 2 using stills (creative commons) and GOT acoustic cover music. I have a draft of it and I'd love to show you and get your feedback/input as we're interested in putting it up on this wiki. I could skype it to you, my skype is peter.kalmbach1

Lemme know!

Peter 23:36, March 6, 2013 (UTC)