Board Thread:Questions and Answers/@comment-91.99.158.164-20150617212454/@comment-25305489-20150712041629

173.66.245.32 wrote: Okay so as much as I want to believe Jon Snow isn’t dead, he probably is. Like he got stabbed multiple times in the chest by his own men for God’s sake.

But in order to be resurrected, you must first die. So yes, he may be dead, he may not be, but I do think he isn’t gone for good and here is why.

The entire plot of season 5 was centered around a few characters like Tyrion and Sansa, but Jon in particular. The way that he became a figure of authority and a force to be reckoned with is not something that you kill off a few episodes later. There was the white walkers fight scene and when Jon’s sword didn’t shatter, it almost basically proved the Azor Ahai prophecy. And even if it didn’t, that is not a fact to ignore. Literally every other weapon was shattered by that walker’s staff but Jon’s wasn’t. But why? (Lightbringer?????????) Other than the fact that it may have been because it was made of Valyrian steel, we haven’t truly figured it out yet, but I’m sure we will. (Look up Azor Ahai, it's mind fucking when you parrallel it with Jon.)

There’s also a reason Bran wasn’t in season 5. I’m sure everyone has heard of the R+L=J theory, and even if you don’t believe it, you must admit there is a hell of a lot of evidence to just initiate some debate. Anyways, wargs are proven by Jojen to have visions of the past, present, and future. Bran is a warg and a very powerful one. By finding the three-eyed-raven, he is learning the true power of being a warg and is probably preparing to drop the biggest bomb Thrones has ever seen, and I think that will be Jon’s true parentage. Without Jon alive, what good would that be?

As far as the situation at the wall goes, Jon was everyone’s last hope. In killing him, the storyline at the wall is completely over. Like who’s going to defend the realms of men from the white walkers now? Thorne and that little shit Olly? Lmao, right. Jon was the key character at the wall. Perhaps if he does stay dead, it will open another door to a different character’s arch in fighting against the white walkers (maybe Theon or Sansa), but that’s unlikely. They're basically fucked without him

I’m also going to address the comparison of both Robb’s and Jon’s death.The red wedding was a very important point in the plot. It was a huge turning point for Thrones, as the beloved King in the North was brutally betrayed whiched shocked everyone watching/reading. While it was devastating, the story was still able to continue and actually expand into something much bigger. However, Jon’s death is the end of something. It is the end of the Night’s Watch as we know it. He was far too much of an important character to kill off. His character arc wasn’t even close to reaching climax; he still had a long way to go. Yes, D&D and GRRM have killed highly developed and important characters before (like Robb), but Jon is different in a way that I can’t put into words or provide proof for but basically up until his death, he seemed to be the key to the entire story in more than one way. Without Jon, the Night’s Watch is finished. They wasted all that time building this one key character to just kill him off? I don’t think so. I think he he went to the wall for a reason. I think he stayed at the wall for a reason, and I also think his unique relationship with Maester Aemon was developed for a reason. (Friendly reminder that Maester Aemon was Aemon Targaryen. Look up R+L=J if you can't make the connection here.)

Also, off the screen, Kit still hasn’t cut his hair. (Maybe he did, I can’t really tell). And he apparently wasn't on the SDCC panel, along with D&D and GRRM, most likely to avoid the question of Jon’s potential return. If he was really dead, then wouldn't they have shown up for the fans? Or like, just for the hell of it? Hmm...

This is all speculation and I may have gotten something wrong, but there are a lot of factors I haven't touched on or just breifly mentioned because I haven't read the books (forgive me), but I am confident that Jon will come back for more than one reason. And if he doesn’t, then we better have a much bigger ending awaiting us. There are so many questions that we don’t know the answer to, and without Jon, we may never know them. But we do know that winter is coming and it is coming fast.

I apologize for the essay, but I've been agonizing over this for a long time and I had to get my opinion out there. All we can do is wait for next spring and hope for the best.

the night watch was a sack of barf by kill jon, not only by their value as character, talking tactically, hes the only that see and fought nearly the menace of the withe walkers.