Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-75.85.184.179-20160620220320/@comment-35248810-20190627173237

It’s not the 1st conversation. The parties to The Battle of the Bastards parlay, & Sansa tells Ramsey he will die tomorrow (at that time only she knew the Knights of the Vale were on the way.) Sansa retreats back to Stark camp. Ramsey tells them he hasn’t fed his dogs in 7 days. Next we see Jon & Co back at camp in war council in Jon’s tent talking about battle strategy. Davos & Tormund leave & Sansa asks Jon if it ever occurred to him that she would know more about Ramsey than anyone there? She doesn’t tell Jon about Littlefinger & the Vale, he doesn’t mention starving dogs. I think at this point Jon is still trying to protect Sansa, which she notes as her last line before leaving him is, “No one can protect me. No one can protect anyone.” (I love to note the use of the term “No one” whenever I hear or read it. I think the choice of wording is important. She doesn’t say “you [Jon] can’t protect me” or “we can’t be protected.” Or anything else. Sansa says NO ONE. But that is another matter. I think there are 2 explanations for the Sansa knowing the dogs haven’t been fed in 7 days. Either it is a production mistake, OR, it is a subtle reference to Sansa indeed being a warg. We never got to see or read about Sansa having wolf dreams or learn about her connection to Lady because of Lady’s untimely death. But, I believe all the Stark children were wargs. And it may be that Ramsey was also a warg, bonded to his hounds. Book readers get additional insight into warging & skin changing in ASOS & ADwD prologue POV of Varamyr Sixskins. Thru Varamyr we learn once a beast has been joined to a man, any skinchanger can slip inside it. Varamyr felt a weak Orell living in the eagle & overtook the bird, but he explains to Jon that warging works both ways & now Orell is a part of Varamyr thru the eagle. We get more insight, thou very subtle, from Sansa herself when she speaks with Sandor during the S8E4 post Battle of Winterfell celebration... Sandor asks how she killed Ramsey and she says with hounds. As a book reader, I see that conversation as 2 wargs speaking because I believe Sandor is also a warg & that we best see that in ASOS Arya chapters when she describes Sandor’s relationship with his horse, Stranger. Taking all these puzzle pieces & subtle clues, I like to believe that the scene between Sansa, Ramsey & the hounds is similar to the parts of the story I mentioned above. Ramsey is cocky confident his hounds won’t turn on him- I believe it’s cuz he’s bonded to them. But Sansa knows the hounds are starving because she senses it as 1 warg senses another, (Varamyr sensing Jon & Bran.) Sansa overtakes a hound & Ramsey, causing them to turn on their master. And just as Orell lived on inside Varamyr, Ramsey lives on inside Sansa... it explains the cunning & even ruthlessness we see in Sansa moving forward from this point. ...my 2 cents anyways. Finding clues we r not even sure are clues to tie puzzle pieces together to explain the otherwise unexplainable is why we all love this story, is it not?