Board Thread:TV Show Discussion/@comment-5014364-20161218050632/@comment-5014364-20161219045019

Godzillavkk wrote: Littlefinger did so in the hopes of giving Stannis a Wardeness of the North should he take Winterfell. The plan backfired when Stannis was defeated. And I smell Sansa beating him at his own game next season. And from what I've read, a lot of people loved Season 6. Now I ask this again. If none of us will back down, then maybe this thread should be removed before this flame gets hotter.

....had Sansa not gone to Winterfell at all, but stayed in the Vale, and Stannis defeated the Boltons.....Sansa could have just traveled to Winterfell, where Stannis would proclaim her the rightful ruler of Winterfell, Wardeness of the North, and shared ally against the Lannisters.

In the event that Stannis won, there was zero reason for Sansa herself to be at Winterfell.

The plan didn't "backfire" when Stannis lost, though, so much as - in their telling of it at least - Littlefinger said he wasn't sure if Stannis or the Boltons would win; if Stannis won, great, Sansa rules, but hopefully she'd...."help undermine the Boltons from within" or something.....and if the Boltons won, remain to help...undermine them from within?

Dear god. Most times, marrying the last female heir of a major House is something you don't want your enemies to do. Typically you kill a rival lord and marry his daughter to claim his lands.

It doesn't work the god damned other way around! (yelling at the writers). You don't give away the person who has legal claim to Winterfell!

That's why the Lannisters held on to Sansa in the first place!

Dear god. Imagine if Sansa was free originally, and Robb decided to marry off Sansa to Joffrey, saying it was so she could "destroy them from within".

YES, the Tyrells were doing this to the Lannisters...but only because the Lannisters were already dependent on them. The Tyrells gained much from a royal marriage.

Giving away Sansa was giving the Boltons a claim to Winterfell; under normal circumstances....had Sansa stayed in the Vale, the Boltons would wish they could invade the Vale to capture her.

Even Season 6 bizarrely acknowledged that this "plan" made no sense!