Talk:Jaime Lannister

I would strongly disagree with the abilities section. In the books it is made clear that Loras Tyrell, although an outstanding jouster (probably the best in Westeros), is nowhere near as good with a sword, although this could be due to lack of experiance. He admits that his elder brother is much better than him, and no one seems to see him as an excellent fighter, not in the same way that they see Jaime. Also in the books, Ned Stark was not a particually good swordsman, his skills were more in leading and ruling than actual fighting. I don't know how relevent this is to this wiki, since it's mainly about the TV show, but there are sections about the books and as far as I know it was never directly stated in the show that Ned was an amazing warrior. In my opinion, the 3 men who could beat Jaime are Gregor Clegane (because of his size and massive strength), Sandor Clegane (very skilled, and still much stronger than Jaime) and Barristan Selmy. I hope you'll take this into account, as I'd really like to contribute to this wiki, even though the TV show isn't my specialist subject :)

86.161.237.52 15:07, September 17, 2012 (UTC)

Selmy did mention in "The Wolf and the Lion" that Ned cut down a dozen great knights during Robert's rebellion. So he's definitely beyond average as a swordsman. Bronn could also be added to the list. He's very skilled as well as cunning and doesn't mind fighting dirty. --Martell (talk) 18:13, September 17, 2012 (UTC)

I think the growth of Jamie Lannister's character has been my favourite in all the books. If you haven't read them,  you really should. You don't, as of yet at least, get to see the true depth of him on the show. He is so much more complex on the page and Martin has done well with his character. I'm very excited to see where he goes in season 3. Kneesie (talk) 21:40, January 13, 2013 (UTC) Not you, fat Jesus.