Board Thread:TV Show Discussion/@comment-1600847-20150615133347/@comment-5014364-20150617065827

You know, I probably wouldn't even be that mad at how much of the North storyline they cut...if they simply hadn't made Stannis's attack so anti-climactic in this episode. It seems like they were rushing to kill him off, instead of however he's actually going to burn Shireen much later in the novels. I think they burned Shireen in episode 9 for a climax....but that results in half the army leaving.

Even putting aside "two books into one season?!"...they didn't need to do it this way, even within the timespan of the last 2-3 episodes of this season.

Again: it went from "tragic" to "comical". Particularly, even if he's hopelessly outmatched...why cut away like that? They treated them like a speedbump instead of a somewhat serious challenge to the Boltons...and after a full season of buildup.

It was just plain rushed.

Myrcella dying in next novel might explain this, but once the shock wore off, I'm more annoyed at Tyene's ridiculous dialogue.

So, specifically shifting Shireen's death to now and thus making the battle anti-climactic -- these are things that were within their power to change in this one season.

The Dorne subplot...again, I insist that sending Jaime to Dorne wasn't a bad idea on paper, but who wrote such dialogue throughout the season? Who directed the shoddy camerawork? I'm tired now, this is a weak and sighed resignation to it but---

again, I wasn't even depressed about the North storyline GOING INTO the episode -- cutting out so many other characters was annoying, but it was working on its own. Doing the battle like this was just bizarre. I really hope Q&A asks why they treated it so anti-climactic.

The book fan in me is annoyed at changing Ellaria so much, but on the other hand they need TV mechanics to be different. The logic of doing this while Trystane is on ship is kind of odd though.

They hyped Dorne so much going into Season 5 and yet it barely appeared at all. It wasn't even a single writing decision but just limited time to film it left it VERY rough around the edges.

I'm also not amused by their "let's threaten Gilly with rape for dramatic tension" idea. Books didn't need that.

I was utterly defeated after I saw this the first time but I'm trying to focus on the positives (storyline by storyline it wasn't all bad).

And hey, why focus so much on Ramsay hurting Sansa....instead of the growing confrontation between Ramsay and Jon? Cut entirely.