Board Thread:TV Show Discussion/@comment-1600847-20150615133347/@comment-4694601-20150615185415

First off. I didn't read the books but I will so I am not juging about the differences.

Reddyredcp wrote: Everyone is so mad about Stannis' death... but I actually liked it. At first, I was thinking "wow, just like that... he's dead? No more Stannis? Come on, he deserved something epic." Looking back in hindsight though, it was truly an excellent death, especially for a man like Stannis. It's mostly book readers saying "he hasn't died in the books!", but if I recall correctly, the books and TV show are supposed to have the same ending, even if they go off in different plot directions. So I think book Stannis is doomed.

This. The mistake Stannis was making is that he fought alone. He only had Davos and he was so focussed in beeing the Lord of Light as Melisandre said. At the end around Season 4 and well Season 5 you really saw that Stannis didn't have enough willpower to make it to the throne. He seems tired and old and with the sacrifice of his dauther I think he lost everything and in this war you saw that he just wanted to say "It's over man" because Stannis is a good fighter and made good fight-plans in the past and to attack Winterfell like this was more an act of beeing tired of everything. Come on Winterfell has to be captured by stealthy missions and not knocking on Roose Boltons door and believe you can come in.

The short Arya-part was verry confusing but interesting and it left a great cliffhanger. Her story, besides just this episode, was in the whole Season a great success and hopefully in the next Season she will be have her "real" training for beeing noone. The Cersei-part was interesting too, I loved it but while she was walking to the castle again I was more thinking of what she will do next, what are her lessons from this? Because with beeing now a nice persons Game of Thrones will lose a more or less good antagonist.

I wasn't actually really mad on that Myrcella-part and like the prophesy of Cersei said that her children is gonna die and it was just a matter of time. The whole Dorne-thing in this season was more a filler. The scene with Jaime and his daughter was nice but not heartbreaking for me and I don't think this will have many chain reactions. Only a Cersei who will have a broken heart.

I think my favourite moment was the one with Tyrion, Jorah and Daario because I think Tyrion will do his job as a right hand for Daenerys and as ruler of Meereen fabulous and I liked it that Jorah has now really a second chance and bromance reuinion with Daario finding Daenerys while she still has problems with her teenager Dragon. Girl, you really should watch "How you train your Dragon".

I knew something will happen on the Wall and I knew something bad gonna happen and I wasn't really shocked that Jon died it was more how he died. I knew Allisar loved this scene but Olly? Seriously that kid is more annying than Jeoffrey and Ramsay together. Glibberish backgroundstory, Jon gave him a new home and a new "family" and then this. It feels like a sack of rice which is falling apart in just five seconds or when the air goes fast out of a balloon. I think that's the first character I even hate in the whole TV-Show.

However this episode was great, it binding all plot-lines together, the storylines of each characters are much clearer and I can't wait for Season 6!