User talk:Werthead

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ASOIAF wiki
Hi! I'm not totally convinced there's need for a separate wiki from the ASOIAF one. After all, there are also other wikis that successfully cover multiple continuities of the same franchise in one wiki (with e.g. separate articles for the book and series version of each character etc.) Although I guess it's better for those who want to avoid spoilers. Still, I think it would be a good idea to cooperate with the ASOIAF wiki, exchange links etc, talk to the admins about cooperating instead of competing (they might want to cover the series in detail too). Anyway, I added a link to the ASOIAF wiki on the main page. Ausir(talk) 18:06, July 1, 2010 (UTC)


 * The spoiler concern is the main reason for separating the two out, simply because of the ease with which a TV-only fan could be spoiled for the books in a combined wiki. In fact, my original plan (I am one of the main contributors to the ASoIaF Wikia) was to transform the ASoIaF Wikia - which is currently redundant anyway because of the existence of the far more detailed Wiki of Ice and Fire - into one for the show, but because of the disappearance of the main admins that was not possible.--Werthead 18:14, July 1, 2010 (UTC)
 * Actually, you are now the main admin at the ASOIAF wiki - I just made you one (I'm a Wikia contractor). :) And yeah, O think it would be a good idea to now merge the two wikis - we don't stand a chance at competing with westeros.org anyway. What do you think would be the best course of action in terms of work required to move relevant info - moving all missing show info from gameofthrones to asoiaf, deleting gameofthrones and moving asoiaf to gameofthrones (better name for a show wiki), or just keeping this one as the main wiki, moving all missing show info from asoiaf here and redirecting asoiaf to gameofthrones? Ausir(talk) 18:31, July 1, 2010 (UTC)


 * My thought at the moment is to keep things the way they are. There is some excellent stuff only on the Wikia, so I'd want to save that and move it over to the Wiki of Ice and Fire first, whilst I also know some ASoIaF fans prefer the set-up and format of the Wikia to the WoIaF, so I wouldn't take any drastic action by deleting it just yet.--Werthead 19:28, July 1, 2010 (UTC)

Game(s)
What do you think of covering also the upcoming Game of Thrones video game(s) and maybe other adaptations as well (board games etc.) here? Especially the game will likely attract some of the fans of the series. Ausir(talk) 09:56, July 24, 2010 (UTC)


 * An interesting possibility, although technically since the game is not affiliated with the HBO series that would be better covered on the book-based wiki. Certainly a mention of it could work quite well.--Werthead 17:44, July 24, 2010 (UTC)
 * Technically, it's not, but I think that the series fans will be its main target anyways. Ausir(talk) 19:48, August 7, 2010 (UTC)

Welcome & Achievements
Hey!

I've just stumbled upon this wiki a few days ago, while looking for Song of Ice & Fire wikis at Wikia. I'm a member of Wikia's Tech Team and often search for wikis on topics I'm interested in – and I've recently picked up Game of Thrones (the book).

You've done a great job here so far, as far as I can see mostly by yourself. Hope I can help out a bit, as I go through the book. :)

As a sort of greeting gift I've enabled a new feature called Achievements. They're rewards users receive for various actions on the wiki – edits, categorisations, photo uploads, etc. Achievements are also customisable, and I've taken the liberty to make some of them feel more like Westeros. Our hope is that they will make contributing to the wiki a bit more fun and a little more addictive... ;)

Try them out and let me know what you think. I really hope you like them. And I do encourage you to try and customise them yourself, I'm certain you know Westeros more than I do.

Cheers, TOR 00:24, February 2, 2011 (UTC)


 * I just fixed an issue with our achievements logic, that caused it to fail to award you your special Creator achievement (which I've renamed to "King" on this wiki). I've now fixed this by awarding you the badge manually. Sorry for the omission, Your Grace. ;) TOR 16:35, February 18, 2011 (UTC)

Hi!
Hi there, just wanted to say thanks for the welcome, I look forward to contributing to the wiki. :)

Hi
Ok, thanks for letting me know about that stuff. I hadn't seen the thing about no spoilers written down anywhere, oops! Anyway I'll keep all that in mind for later. Sorry for combining multiple words too, for some reason my computer keeps doing that for me, I'll keep a closer eye on that.

Thanks!

Hi
Hi, could you please revert the Khal Drogo page, I edited it to fix a spelling error and somehow the code got screwed up, thanks!

Questions about the show
I was watching last night, and Daenerys calls herself "Calese?" I know i'm spelling that wrong... but what is she referring to? Do you know? Thanks! :)Buffymybasset 21:42, May 2, 2011 (UTC)

Ahhh! I like how the people look to her now, and not her wimpy brother lol 21:53, May 2, 2011 (UTC)

I didn't quite understand the ending either... was his daughter stabbed?

Ahhh, see, not reading the books hurts when I am trying to figure out characters lol. Thanks! 22:06, May 2, 2011 (UTC)

Please consider
Please consider blocking User:Clarissa Owens I have had to revert many edits. Also, she has deleted messages from you and me, ignoring our warnings. Thanks. Buffymybasset 16:26, May 11, 2011 (UTC)
 * Thank you! It was difficult keeping up with all the reverts! Buffymybasset

why are there so many rulues on different pages i follow they wont even let me edit pics on hear 

Strange! I just had to block the user on my True Blood page too! Messing with the layout by adding gibberish! Buffymybasset

I like Tyrion's infobox. When I started on the TB wiki, obviously the boxes were already in place. I know there is issues with ours, I've talked to a wikia staff member, but unfortunately something with the coding is off. I'm in no way a champ at those codes.. lol. Buffymybasset

Have you messaged Special:Contact yet and explained to them that you are using the TB Wiki template on here? I am sure they will know exactly what's up, and help to fix it here for you. It's something that only they can fix.. since they added that feature to the TB Wiki.. and I haven't seen it anywhere else. Hope this helps. :) 14:36, May 14, 2011 (UTC)

No prob!! They'll get back to you soon :) Have a great weekend, and enjoy the show Sunday! 14:49, May 14, 2011 (UTC)

Hi, sorry for the delay in responding to your message... I get it, no worries... I work for Wikia- i LOVe this series and would be happy to help you out on anything on the wiki if you need it... Have you thought about creating portals on the main page to the various houses? And elsewhere for characters? You could do a lot visually on the main page to help navigate the site.

You could also have polls on the main page- a good way to keep the community active- as well as quotes (there are so many good ones) and I can activate top 10 lists but only if you want them.

Cheers,

Bchwood 01:56, May 17, 2011 (UTC)

Looks great!!! So glad you got it lined out! :) 14:18, May 17, 2011 (UTC)

Infobox pics
I was curious. Where do you find the episode pictures for infoboxes, on episodes that haven't aired yet? I need to start getting my True Blood Wiki ready! :) 22:46, May 17, 2011 (UTC)

Gotcha! Thanks so much! 23:19, May 17, 2011 (UTC)

I found this one.. which I'm sure you have already..

I created a castportal (the small character boxes) for the main page :) If you don't like it, feel free to remove it... just thought it would add a little more to the page :) Buffmybasset 21:18, May 18, 2011 (UTC)

Okay- I'll keep an out too :D 21:57, May 18, 2011 (UTC)

Opinion on the Show
Hey Werthead,

What do you think of the show so far? To be honest, it's good at this point, but the 1st episode was a bit too slow for my liking. Entia non sunt multiplicanda praeter necessitatem 17:38, May 19, 2011 (UTC)

HBO GO
Were you able to watch next week's episode?? My cable provider isn't on the list!! GRRRRR Buffymybasset

Oh yeah, I completely agree!!! I wanted to watch it so bad, but I'll just have to wait :( Latest episode, last night, was AMAZING! -- 19:49, May 23, 2011 (UTC)

Suggestion
May I suggest something? --Cartman!Talk! 17:20, May 24, 2011 (UTC)
 * Bare with me while I fix my signature.

Houses from the books
Actually I only added them because they were already listed as vassals on the Stark page so I assumed someone had seen them mentioned, my apologies. And you never got back to me about my previous message. --Cartman!Talk! 21:31, May 24, 2011 (UTC)
 * Well I'm interested in a couple of things, firstly each uploaded image in 'thumb' format is listed with the name of the uploader. I would suggest removing this as it doesn't really conform to article standards that I'm used to (a lot of wiki's outright ban the inclusion of user names in articles), it can promote some kind of territorial or "ownership" mentality but this is at your discretion. This could probably be achieved in the wiki's CSS pages but if you're unsure how I could probably find out for you. And secondly I'm interested in knowing your stance on British English vs. American English, considering how British English is used in the series itself this would usually give it priority, but as you're more likely to be American (although you might not be :P) I'm not sure how you're willing to deal with this issue, as this has led to some confusion for me personally when editing certain articles.
 * Oh very good, I'm also British :P the main reason I asked was because I was making the same mistake myself, e.g. creating the duplicate "organisations" category. I'll get on finding out more about the scripts etc. when I have the time to do so. And yes you'll still be able to access the history to find out who uploaded an image to an article, don't worry about that. I'll find out how to get rid of it if that's the course of action you're willing to take, but don't expect an immediate solution :P. Also I was wondering who the active admins on this wiki are as I like to associate myself with the admins on the other wiki I regularly edit as it would make things easier in the event you aren't online and I need someone to address a problem, as I intend be quite active on this wiki because I'm enjoying the show quite a lot :P
 * Well you seem to be doing well so far. I'll look into the images for you, and do you have a policies and guidelines page yet?
 * I can get on it now if you'd like, just as a start.

Categories.
Is there any way we could set up some guidelines what goes into the different categories specifically: Locations, Cities, Castles and Geography. Should a castle go into Locations or Geography? Because i have seen different pages go into different categories. I would say that areas of a "province" should go into geography and that castles and cities should be part of Locations. Bow down to the Lord of Onions! 22:30, May 24, 2011 (UTC)
 * By dictionary definition "geography" can apply to any of these things, so a master category is a good suggestion. -- Cartman! Talk! 23:07, May 24, 2011 (UTC)


 * The whole Noble house category is a mess. I suggest making a master category called Ruling house. Which will have the seven ruling houses. Martell, Tyrell, Lannister, Greyjoy, Baratheon, Stark and Tully. Then have a sub category called Vassal house. LordofOnions (Talk) 19:44, May 25, 2011 (UTC)
 * Vassal house sub category could also be called Sworn house/Banner house. LordofOnions (Talk) 19:54, May 25, 2011 (UTC)
 * Sorry for the spam. But i just found a page called Great houses. Let us use this and make a distinction between the Great houses and Banner houses in the categories. LordofOnions (Talk) 20:11, May 25, 2011 (UTC)
 * http://gameofthrones.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Great_house I have added Great house to a couple of the Great houses. But they do not show up at the category page. I think its fine having them all in Noble house. But some of them are not noble. But only landed knights. I will need some help with the categories. Also the category:page: noble house have a subcategory called noble house?? LordofOnions (Talk) 20:31, May 25, 2011 (UTC)

Major Vandal
As soon as you can I'd suggest banning User:Coolkidbloo, who replaced the entire welcome page content with various insults about the series. -- Cartman! Talk! 00:44, May 25, 2011 (UTC)

Policies and Guidelines
Might I suggest adding it to the community drop-down? And I'll add a few things for general behaviour. I'd also suggest moving it from the generic page categories as this can lead to problems in uniformity i.e. a page in the main namespace without specific categorisation and little to do with the show, and I can see it making it more open to vandalism. Cartman!Talk!
 * I've just added some user behaviour guidelines as the first entry in the policies because this is probably one of the most important areas, especially with rude users and vandals running rife on many a wiki. Of course these should be expanded when the need arises or if new additions have been thought of.
 * I'll be making more additions soon. And is it just me or is this writing coming up incredibly small?
 * Yeah it shouldn't be doing that :P strange.

Hey, just wanted to say those character portals look great. Sorry i haven't had time to do them myself. The poll seems to be a success. It's great when you get a really active community on a wiki. You may want to consider blogs on the main page as well, perhaps below the mainpage end tag so they span the full page width... Cheers.

Bchwood 05:54, May 27, 2011 (UTC)

Spoilers
I'm also a little busy but in my free time I'll be keeping a look in don't worry. Cartman!Talk!

Sigils
Hey, where did you get the new great house sigils from? LordofOnions (Talk) 20:43, May 29, 2011 (UTC)

The show
Wow. Last nights was amazing wasn't it! It just keeps getting better and better. Drogo is FIRED UP!!! haha. (p.s, I think tomorrow I will change up the castportal pics and placement. I want to put all those battling for the throne on top (including Joffrey now too obviously). Sooo, that will be my next project! :) 16:48, May 30, 2011 (UTC)

Titles
You don't believe that titles should be linked as well as the name? It makes sense as when king for example is capitalised when referring to a specific monarch and not the position in general and serves as an attachment to a name, and I believe this is the process used on wikipedia aswell. Apart from that I think it makes character lists and even appearances is articles look a lot neater in my opinion. --Cartman!Talk!
 * It shouldn't be a continuity problem if titles correspond to the character's title in the episode in question, but outside of episode articles the titles will understandably be in flux. As linking the titles with the name through e.g. Emperor John Smith requires no change in page name I see no harm in the practice. Thanks for the okay anyway.

Im in favor of adding titles to Kings only. LordofOnions (Talk) 23:56, May 30, 2011 (UTC)


 * So somehow the title of Lord doesn't qualify as a legitimate attachment (even though semantically it should be)? Regardless of prestige a title is a title. --Cartman!Talk!

[Spoilers] House Baratheon.
How should we proceed with the split of House Baratheon into three factions/houses? Should we do it like the asoiaf wiki? or name the three different factions: House Baratheon of Dragonstone, House Baratheon of King's Landing and House Baratheon of Storm's End? LordofOnions (Talk) 23:51, May 30, 2011 (UTC)

Family tree template
I have no idea on how to create templates. But a template for family trees at the Great houses page would be great and make it easier to figure out family connections. LordofOnions (Talk) 23:57, May 30, 2011 (UTC)

Character category on House pages.
Nah its a bad idea. I think the categories are a already a mess as of now. We should make some guidelines for correct category use. Also to keep the character category only with characters. LordofOnions (Talk) 01:16, May 31, 2011 (UTC)

Hi again,

We'd love to get the blogs on the main page! Would you be okay with that?

Let me know.

Thanks,

Bchwood 19:55, May 31, 2011 (UTC)

please block
Please Block User: BusShiting for vandalising pages. Thanks! 18:32, June 6, 2011 (UTC)

screencaps
I found this GREAT site with Season 1 screencaps! Wanted to share :) http://ladymanson.com/galleries/tv/TVGH/index.php?cat=6 18:32, June 8, 2011 (UTC)

admin
Sure i would like to help out! Thanks! LordofOnions (Talk) 23:27, June 10, 2011 (UTC)

Sure I can also help out. I can watch for spammers and trolls!! :) 00:04, June 11, 2011 (UTC)

Thanks
Hi Werthead

Thanks for all the work you've put in this. It's a great resource, and I enjoy giving a hand here of there. regards, KS KarinS 20:28, June 13, 2011 (UTC)

the sword
lol.. I debated before changing that too!! haha You should have seen me the first time I tried to edit on the Harry Potter wiki.. Forget about it!!! HAHA 21:28, June 14, 2011 (UTC)

p.s. and True.. I will check the images! :)

We should get a favicon for our wiki. Maybe the sword in the center of the title would work! :)

- Yeah I added some screenshots but didn't put a caption. Sometimes I think it looks cleaner, but I've started added captions, since I can tell you like them :) If I start to see duplicate images, I will clean them up. 21:37, June 14, 2011 (UTC)

Actor pages: template and type of picture
Some of the actor pages contain a template for their picture and IMDB info, while others don't. (See for instance Emilia Clarke, who has one, versus Maisie Williams and Kit Harington, both of whom don't.) I've been adding some pictures to the actor pages, and I wondered whether I should insert the template when it's missing?

Also, I think we should aim to have non-role pictures for the actors. On Kit Harington's page, we see him depicted as Jon Snow, while perhaps that page should focus on the actor, not his or her role. What do you think?

regards, KS - KarinS 10:59, June 15, 2011 (UTC)

Weird wiki behaviour
Since becoming more active, I've noticed some weird behaviour in the wiki. Any idea what's causing this? Regards, KS - KarinS 00:09, June 16, 2011 (UTC)
 * One: my blog post, created yesterday, won't show up in the overview under Community -&gt; Recent blog posts, although it has a proper tag. Did I perhaps do something wrong? I've noticed the same for Bchwood's recent post, though. Further examination shows that on that page, there are no additional blog posts after June 6. That's wrong, methinks :)
 * Two: there's an error somewhere in the reported number of edits. On my user page, it says 410 edits, under Achievements it says 340 (as indicated by the 340/500 to go for a new badge). The discrepancy is growing; it started being a few percent, and by now it's almost 20%.


 * Ah, I figured out why there are discrepancies in the reported number of edits. Under one's user profile, all edits are counted, while under the number of edits-to-go/badges the edits on actor pages are not taken into account. That's probably a software or configuration error? - KarinS 11:02, June 16, 2011 (UTC)

New response:

Yes please, it would be nice if this could be sorted out. Blog posts not showing up under the 'Community' entry means that people aren't going to get much feedback when they post something. That's a pity: this site is more than a wiki, and a proper place for opinion pieces and debate help to knit a community. As for the edits not being counted properly: it's a bit annoying. By now a hundred of my edits are not being counted, and that's a lot.

Both problems are probably configuration problems. Any blog posted after June 6, refuses to appear on the 'Community - Recent blog post' page, while before, they all did. The counting error might be a bit more intricate, and perhaps should be taken up with the Wikia Admins...?

At the same time: none of these issues are urgent. Do take your time, please spend time on things other than this wiki too (have a life!), and be assured that even if matters don't get solved, we still love ya :)

Regards, KS - KarinS 23:10, June 17, 2011 (UTC)

How to delete a page?
Having misread his surname, I thought that David J. Peterson - the language consultant - didn't have a page yet, and so I made one under the misread name: David J. Petersen (i.e. with an 'e' in the last syllable. After I realized my error, I added my info to the real page, but now we're stuck with an empty and erroneous page. I can redirect it, but deleting it is preferable. However, I don't know how to do that. Can you delete it for me, or explain how I can do it myself? The to-be-deleted page is this one: David_J._Petersen. And I apologize for this little mess... - Regards, KarinS 22:31, June 17, 2011 (UTC)

Discussions, coherence & admins
Perhaps we should have a general wiki discussion page where matters of policy, software, configuration and how-to's can be dealt with? People posting their questions on your Talk page and you responding on their Talk-page doesn't make it easier for others to follow how matters develop. Plus, the current method seems to promote that we all dump our problems at your doorstep, which might become a bit of a burden...

By now, there are two more admins: User:LordofOnions and User:Buffymybasset. A general problem/ help/ requests/ etc. page would split the burden of administrating affairs between all admins, and thus make the task lighter for each of you. Plus, questions and their answers would be kept together, instead of dispersed of various pages.

And again: please take your time answering this. No pressure intended, quite the opposite: it's an attempt to invent ways to lessen the pressure :)

Regards, KS - KarinS 23:23, June 17, 2011 (UTC)

Image attribution
It would appear that the problem has been dealt with. Cartman!Talk!

Template cleanup
I gotten myself into some trouble. I want to import a template. From the templates wikia.

http://gameofthrones.wikia.com/wiki/Template:Cleanup/doc

http://gameofthrones.wikia.com/wiki/Template:Cleanup

http://templates.wikia.com/wiki/Template:Cleanup

http://templates.wikia.com/wiki/Template:Cleanup/doc

It seem we need to incoporate CSS?

http://templates.wikia.com/wiki/Template:Ambox

I've already uploaded the broom picture.

LordofOnions (Talk) 12:19, June 21, 2011 (UTC)

I'm hard at work trying to make it work! So far its trial and error. I've also added some css. What css did you add? LordofOnions (Talk) 12:35, June 21, 2011 (UTC)

Near success. http://gameofthrones.wikia.com/wiki/Template:Cleanup But that large broom image still needs to be 50 px. LordofOnions (Talk) 13:26, June 21, 2011 (UTC)

Its working now, is there anyway to make a general announcement so that people know about this template?. people just need to type in { { cleanup } } without the spaces.

But it would be nice to have the text bold black. LordofOnions (Talk) 14:20, June 21, 2011 (UTC)

Coding.
Damn i had nearly forgotten how tedious and mind boggling coding is. LordofOnions (Talk) 16:53, June 21, 2011 (UTC)

Two new templates
http://gameofthrones.wikia.com/wiki/Template:Battle and http://gameofthrones.wikia.com/wiki/Template:War

http://gameofthrones.wikia.com/wiki/Robert's_Rebellion

LordofOnions (Talk) 19:05, June 21, 2011 (UTC)

Well i did change the color now. Also added a new background color. I'm still messing around with the code and i haven't looked at the battle template yet. Yeah i took it from wookiepedia. LordofOnions (Talk) 20:28, June 21, 2011 (UTC)


 * Got the colours sorted out, looks pretty good. Check Robert's Rebellion and Battle of the Trident.--Werthead 21:12, June 21, 2011 (UTC)

Opinion - stub template
What do you think? (Ambox problems, see link)
 * It came up too small for the intended look, see here for a more accurate look.
 * http://gameofthrones.wikia.com/wiki/Gold_dragons It works perfect. I just had to change the background color and add it as a template. You just need to write Stub in the look up template when you try to insert a template. LordofOnions (Talk) 20:26, June 21, 2011 (UTC)


 * It's a good idea! But on pages for characters and actors, both the stub and cleanup-templates should probably be inserted at the bottom. Otherwise, the template image replaces the pictures of the actor or the character, I noticed. I moved all relevant stub- and cleanup-templates down. - KarinS 12:44, June 23, 2011 (UTC)
 * Hey Werthead, you never told me what you thought ;P --Cartman!Talk!

Battles
I'll do the green fork battle now. If you want to do the whispering wood battle? LordofOnions (Talk) 21:27, June 21, 2011 (UTC)

What are we going to call the conflict? I made a page called Stark rebellion. Should we *SPOILER* call it the war of the fve kings now? We already know from episode 10, that Stannis and Renly are not united and each claim the Iron throne. LordofOnions (Talk) 23:09, June 21, 2011 (UTC)

Theres a problem in the template:war code. I am looking into it right now. LordofOnions (Talk) 23:09, June 21, 2011 (UTC)

Done i fixed the code. LordofOnions (Talk) 00:41, June 22, 2011 (UTC)

Stubs, updates and cleanup templates.
Indeed i just used stubs for some of the articles that needs to be updated and has holes in it. More templates! Do you want to get a update template? After yesterday i had enough of templates and coding for a little while. Took me some time to crack that war template. LordofOnions (Talk) 13:39, June 22, 2011 (UTC)

how bout those poll numbers? FYI, swapped out the video on main page, was showing this...

Bchwood 23:06, June 24, 2011 (UTC)

Adminship
Hello. I am a big fan of Game of Thrones, and i have started a number of my own wiki's. I personaly love making the badges, so i would like to request an adminship for that reason and that reason alone. I most likely would do nothing else 'admin-y' if i got it, but i enjoy doing the badges. Please reply with you verdict.

Jordan &#39;The Blur&#39; Farrell 20:56, June 25, 2011 (UTC)

Okay thanks

Reorganizing categories
As the wiki expands, we seem to be getting more and more categories: there are over a hundred already (see the list of categories). Also, some categories are becoming huge, while others contain only one item; and some categories are grouped, while others aren't.

I'm attempting to organize all categories into a kind of parenting system with subcategories and overall categories. For instance:


 * For the category Actor, I created two new subcategories: Actors (Not hired), for actors who were listed for a role or who played in the pilot, but ended up not being hired, and Actors (Role ended) for actors whose participation came to an end because their character died.
 * Within the overall category Characters, I created the subcategories Status: Alive, Status: Dead and Status: Unsure.
 * All images that were merely labelled as 'Images' I gave a more specific label, and
 * All image subcategories have now been grouped under the overall label Image Galleries.

Organizing and re-organizing labels / categories is a bit of a hassle, because the new category arrangements only become visible on the category level after the database has re-indexed. On individual pages however, the new arrangements are visible immediately.

At the same time, I'm writing a help / instruction page explaining the use / lineage / parentage / hierarchy of categories. Ultimately, that page is supposed to give an overview of all categories used. I'm writing it as I go along. To see which categories I have re-arranged and described, see Overview categories.

Also, I'm grouping all instruction / explanatory / help pages that I've come across under a new category Instructions. Some of these pages currently exist not as a proper page, but are a category of their own. In those cases, I've taken their content, created a new page for that, and marked the category page in question for 'deletion' (using the to-be-deleted template for that).

And, uhm, if anybody thinks I'm to rash or too OCD in doing all of this, please say so and I'll abstain from further meddling :) regards, KarinS 00:55, June 26, 2011 (UTC)


 * No, it's looking really good! Something we've been meaning to do for a while, and it's looking great :-) --Werthead 15:14, June 26, 2011 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the thumbs-up. I'll keep at it, then :) And I don't want to stretch it, but could you possibly give me admin rights so that I can delete pages myself, instead of having to ask for that? If not, I'm fine with that too ) - KarinS 23:51, June 26, 2011 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the admin rights! I'll make use of them sparingly, and hopefully: wisely :) - KarinS`

Let's move to the Help desk?
Most questions and discussions regarding the organization of the site are done via the 'Talk' pages of people, which is why Werthead's has already grown tremendously :) However, it's perhaps not the most useful way to conduct such talks:
 * Werthead gets swamped with questions;
 * Other sysadmins could perhaps have helped;
 * A questions and its answer are spread over two talk pages (Werthead's and the talk page of the one asking);
 * Other users thereby often miss a question or its resolution.

So I was wondering if we perhaps could find a designated, more public place for such matters. Turns out that the wiki has an in-built forum with it's own Help desk section! Why not use that from now on? I've kick-started the forum's Help Desk with [[Forum:Maintenance_matters|a first message. Shall we try, and then see how we like this method...?

(Posted on the talk pages of Werthead, LordofOnions & Buffymybasset) - KarinS 02:32, July 2, 2011 (UTC)

Castmeeting checklist.
So far i have met one thats not on your list! Nikolai Coster Waldau. In the middle of Copenhagen. LordofOnions (Talk) 02:54, July 5, 2011 (UTC)

You should...
You should suggest GoT wiki for Spotlight!!!! :)

http://community.wikia.com/wiki/Talk:Wikia_Spotlights

01:37, July 17, 2011 (UTC)

Asha/Yara
You're right, I have not found any further confirmation, so indeed I had better wait :) - regards, KarinS 23:21, July 17, 2011 (UTC)

Thanks
I'm gonna hold off on editing and keep an eye on the Link problem. Jordan &#39;The Blur&#39; Farrell 17:45, July 19, 2011 (UTC)

Blogs
Hi, would you mind me adding a wiki blog feed to the wiki's main page? I've been posting GoT news blogs for a while now, and I think it would be a good thing to add. Ausir(talk) 22:41, July 19, 2011 (UTC)

Chat
Hello there again! Would you mind me enabling the chat feature? You can try it out at Fallout Wiki. It will definitely come to use especially on episode premiere nights. :) Ausir(talk) 17:13, July 22, 2011 (UTC)
 * Yeah, but it's not as if switching it on now will be of any harm either. :) Ausir(talk) 19:57, July 22, 2011 (UTC)

Please tell which pics I uploaded are duplicates
The pics I uploaded may be derived from existing pics, but they aren't duplicates that I can tell. They are cropped differently and resized specifically to work with the CharPortalAAA template.

If you see pics you know are duplicates, please delete them. I will fix the fallout, if I see it. -- Fandyllic (talk &middot; contr) 24 Jul 2011 10:53 AM Pacific

Proposal for a new wordmark
This wordmark has the word "Wiki" added, but in the same style as the logo. It also has a shadow highlight added for it to work on lighter backgrounds, if you ever choose to switch to a lighter background theme. I can make the shadow lighter, if it is too dark.


 * [[File:Game_of_Thrones_Wiki-new-wordmark.png]]

Please give it some consideration.

If you would like to see a portfolio of other wordmarks I've made, see my user page at Logo Creation wiki. -- Fandyllic (talk &middot; contr) 24 Jul 2011 10:59 AM Pacific

Fandyllic could you use the community forum instead of using Wertheads talk page for suggestions. It can quickly get crowded in here. Also the logo is ripped off the game of thrones game logo. We have been looking for a new logo for some time. LordofOnions (Talk) 18:02, July 24, 2011 (UTC)


 * OK. -- Fandyllic (talk &middot; contr) 24 Jul 2011 11:10 AM Pacific

RE: New characters page
Alright. I must say that I do not understand that and, in my opinion, it would make more sense to include everything about the series. However, I'll respect your policies and refrain from creating those pages. Coincidentally, that means I will be unable to edit here. Thank you for the message and sorry for the bother.

Sláinte mhaith! - Hobbes  (  Talk  ) 00:20, July 28, 2011 (UTC)


 * Thank you. I'll be sure to check it out.


 * Sláinte mhaith! - Hobbes  (  Talk  ) 00:36, July 28, 2011 (UTC)

Spotlight Request
Hi. Game of Thrones Wiki looks great in general. Could you please customize Mediawiki:Community-corner? Let me know when you have done so and I will be happy to add the wiki to the appproved spotlight list. -- Wendy (talk ) 02:28, July 28, 2011 (UTC)


 * Thanks for taking care of that -- I've added the wiki to the list. -- Wendy (<font color="Blue" size="1">talk ) 00:38, August 2, 2011 (UTC)

Spotlight
Woo! I saw us on Spotlight! Awesome! :) 02:34, August 12, 2011 (UTC)

Community message
Thank you very much for your kind comment in the community message. I blushed when I read that :) - Regards, KarinS 23:24, August 15, 2011 (UTC)

User warnings
Btw, I have warned two users, telling them they would be banned upon even one more tresspass. It would be nice if others would keep an eye on them too... One is Shanessarichardson, who edited two pages merely to add spam urls, the other is 69.231.19.34, who thought to enlighten us by adding slanderous 'facts' about one of the actors. - Regards, KarinS 23:35, August 15, 2011 (UTC)


 * Ok, thanks for the explanation! - Regards, KarinS 08:20, August 17, 2011 (UTC)

Other wikis
Done! Good luck on both wikis. :) Ausir(talk) 17:53, August 21, 2011 (UTC)

Hi,

I'm writing from GetGlue, the leading social network for entertainment. We've partnered with over 35 television networks and 21 movie studios to help them promote their content. Now we're now looking to work with fan sites such as yourself.

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I'd love to grab 20 min of your time for a call to discuss how we can bring similar value to your Game of Thrones fan site.

Best,

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-- Maya Harris Director of Business Development GetGlue www.getglue.com/maya_harris

maya@getglue.com 917-310-1489 Skype: maya.getglue

Badges
why don't you have pictures on your badges?hannah230 21:07, September 11, 2011 (UTC)

Hi, great blog, going to post it to our social media accounts!

Also, would like you offer you a wiki refurbishment from one of Wikia's Content Producers? Are you interested ?

Thanks,

<font color="Blue">Peter 17:45, September 19, 2011 (UTC)

Sure thing... In my humble opinion I think you would benefit from some additional visual flourish/organization on the main page, such as custom headers for blogs, poll, featured video... as well as more content on the main page in general. Maybe we can come up with something for you to look at ? See if you dig it or not ?

Ultimately just trying to help you increase traffic/SEO.

But again, if you don't want our help, no problemo....

<font color="Blue">Peter 20:19, September 19, 2011 (UTC)

Hi Werthead,

Just thought I'd check in with you. In an effort to capitalize on the popularity of this show/wiki, we'd really like to help you out with some advanced templates for optimal design/funcationality. Would you be open to us helping you to create a slider template such at the top of the page on The Elder Scrolls? Could be very original and cool for your wiki/users (each slider could represent a different House).

We'd also like to assist you in creating a larger social media presence through FB/Twitter.

Hope you're open to these and some other ideas we have!

Thanks,

<font color="Blue">Peter 19:26, November 21, 2011 (UTC)

Hi there,

i think the picture of the sigil of House Greyjoy (Kraken) is upside-down.


 * It looks like it, but bizarrely it's not. That's the way HBO depicts the image on all of their merchandise and websites.--Werthead 19:25, December 17, 2011 (UTC)

Hi Werthead,

We'd love to help you get the wiki spruced up prior to Season 2! Things like custom headers for the polls and blogs, maybe a portals for the various Houses instead of the characters, and updated slider images, etc.

Would that be cool with you? Lemme know, thanks, <font color="Blue">Peter 19:15, January 3, 2012 (UTC)

Hi Werthead,

Hope you're well.

Was thinking it could be cool to do a formal quiz on Game of Thrones- test your knowledge of Season 1. You and I would come up with the questions we want to ask; have a look at the one we did on Harry Potter- http://harrypotter.wikia.com/wiki/PlayQuiz:Harry_Potter_Quiz

Let me know your thoughts! Cheers, user:Bchwood

Seasons
Hi Werthead,

I was wondering about our season pages and why we title them "Overview" e.g. Overview Season 1. I read somewhere that it is to avoid confusion with the category pages but I have not seen this done elsewhere on wikia sites for television. It complicates internal links and isn't that obvious to search for as a new user. Would you consider moving them to the more obvious Season 1?

I've created an infobox template for the season pages; hoping that there are more to come! Is it OK?

I had posted this on Buffy's page but she redirected me to you. Hope that is OK.

--Opark 77 23:05, January 20, 2012 (UTC)

Vandalism
The wiki saw a brief spate of vandalism today by an IP address user.

I have restored all the edited pages but wanted to let you know in case you think a block is warranted.

While I'm writing I wonder if you have any thoughts regarding my recent suggestions at the Help Desk.--Opark 77 17:47, February 5, 2012 (UTC)

Lead, Biograpy and Background sections for characters
I have been considering restructuring the character articles and have posted my ideas in the forum. I would really appreciate your thoughts.--Opark 77 15:03, February 9, 2012 (UTC)

Request for admin rights
Hi Werthead,

I have been working on our duplicated images problem today. I have added all of the ones I could find to Category:Candidates for deletion. I would like admin rights so that I can follow through and delete the tagged images. Then I will start again and categorize all of the remaining images before re-checking for duplicates by category.

My edit count has passed a thousand. I am the #3 ranked editor on the Wiki. I have experience as an admin on the wikias for The Wire, Luck, Boardwalk Empire, Treme, Boss and Justified. Thank you for your consideration.

--Opark 77 14:32, February 10, 2012 (UTC)


 * I have finished going through the categories systematically and removing all subsections for episodes and replacing them with reference tags. I would really like to be able to work on cleaning up the images next.--Opark 77 16:34, February 13, 2012 (UTC)


 * Thank you. Let me know if there is anything else you would like me to work on.--Opark 77 21:33, February 14, 2012 (UTC)

Quiz
Hey again,

Was wondering if you'd be interested in running a Quiz on Season 1 next month (to get people geared up for Season 2). See a sample of our Quiz Product here-- http://marvel.wikia.com/PlayQuiz:Captain_America_Quiz_2

You could write the questions/asnwers if you want; or we can write them and get your approval; either way. Might be fun!

P.S. Look at the fun we're having!

User:Bchwood

Licensing information for map images
I am continuing to work on our images systematically by date uploaded. I wonder if you could give me some info about the source of the wonderful maps you use to illustrate our image pages. First example I've come across is. Specifically I would like to be able to add the source and some licensing information to each image as I go.--Opark 77 14:03, February 15, 2012 (UTC)


 * Thanks for getting back to me. I will add "Based on an original map created by a poster at Westeros.org for the Wiki of Ice and Fire and uploaded there for free use. Used with the author's permission." to the maps and the creative commons license template.--Opark 77 11:50, February 16, 2012 (UTC)

Updates for season 2
Greetings! I'm Scott with Wikia's Community Development Team. I'd like to help out with the preparations for season 2 (can't wait!!) in any way I can. Is there anything you could use a hand with? I have access to HBO Media Relations, and while the images available through them are not overly abundant, they may be somewhat unique as far as what's out there at this point.

I've been assigned to check with you and find out how you'd feel about some of the following ideas:


 * Making better main page headers, and expanding them so there are headers for the poll, video, and blog sections.
 * Possibly a new background image?
 * Adding a live news feed section on the main page.
 * Adding a featured article section on the main page.
 * Creating a new poll on the main page - something like "Which character's storyline are you most looking forward to in season 2" - and creating a poll archive page we can link to from the main page poll section that would have the current and previous polls listed. (Results from the most recent poll would be shown at the bottom of the current one on the main page.)
 * Updating character portal with deceased characters in black/white or tinted red.
 * Switching to the new style navigation menu with more drop-down options.

Please hit me up on my talk page to let me know what your thoughts are on these ideas, and if there are any other areas I can help out with. I absolutely adore the novels, and I'm fairly pleased with the series so far, so I'm really hoping I can work with you here on whatever meets your approval.
 * http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o297/SCOTIMUS76/siggy3.png (profile)•(talk)•(email) 02:53, February 17, 2012 (UTC)

Tommy Dunne
Tommy Dunne the weaponsmith plays the barber who cuts Robb, Jon and Theon's hair in Winter is Coming to my knowledge. There is a video featuring him on the Making Game of Thrones blog here. I think Den of Geek have their wires crossed on this one as the actor playing Mikken is clearly much older.--Opark 77 18:16, March 1, 2012 (UTC)

Wow, that was quick. Thanks for resolving the uncertainty. I wish I had such a contact who could help with the rest of Category: Performer Unidentified.--Opark 77 10:27, March 2, 2012 (UTC)

Commentaries
Great work on the commentary summaries. I really like the season 1 DVDs. Wish I could afford a blu ray player as the extra featurettes sound interesting.--Opark 77 18:30, March 8, 2012 (UTC)

Speculative names
I tend towards separate articles because:
 * 1) You can reliably link to an article rather than a section within a list. I think linking to section headers leads to dead links over time because as section headers change the links are broken and redirects don't happen whereas if an article name changes redirects are created. I have had experience of this problem with the List of the Sopranos characters on wikipedia.
 * 2) You can categorise individual articles but cannot do the same for entries in a list.

I have no objection to having a list of those articles. I would normally create a list at a disambiguation page for articles with similar titles as they arise. I think that while a list can be useful for navigation it cannot provide the same functionality as having individual articles.

I am not 100% sure what you mean by "not named in the script" - we don't have access to complete scripts to my knowledge. I think you might mean named in dialogue which is slightly different. Is that right? I'm sorry if this sounds pedantic - I just want to confirm that you don't have actual scripts.

If we did have access to a production document like a casting notice or a script then I think we should follow and reference that. In the absence of such confirmation then I am willing to accept speculative names. The existence of these characters is 100% confirmed by their appearance in the episodes. Their names are not always known from the episode alone but their existence is plain. There is a risk we will get names wrong by speculating about them but the joy of a wiki is that it can be constantly updated as new information arises and mistakes can be corrected.

I think it behooves us to have an article on each credited character in the series as a comprehensive guide. I am happy to take responsibility for disambiguation issues that arise from such articles going forward. I have dealt with minor characters with similar assumed names based on their roles on other series by disambiguating them by the episode they appear in.

With regard to uncredited characters I agree that we should only have articles for those that are named in dialogue and accept that I might have overstepped this in some cases - please let me know if there are any specific articles that you think are problematic. --Opark 77 19:05, March 12, 2012 (UTC)


 * Thank you for the reply. I will certainly keep an eye on the articles with speculative titles as season 2 progresses. With regard to names in the end credits of episodes I am slightly confused. I have spent a lot of time trying to work out which actor plays which character because as far as I could see the end credits only listed the names of the actors. Have I missed mention of characters in the end credits?--Opark 77 20:43, March 12, 2012 (UTC)


 * Thanks for getting back to me. I think we should probably follow those too where they mention specific characters. Have you got access to any of them?--Opark 77 08:12, March 14, 2012 (UTC)

Use of images
I wonder if you could help me by giving an opinion about the way we use images on the forum.--Opark 77 11:02, March 18, 2012 (UTC)
 * Thank you.--Opark 77 20:18, March 18, 2012 (UTC)

Skin
We're thinking about updating the wiki's skin to some season 2 imagery at Forum: Proposal for a new skin. What do you think?--Opark 77 15:53, March 21, 2012 (UTC)


 * How does the grey I changed to yesterday work for you?--Opark 77 09:43, April 3, 2012 (UTC)

Interested
As a fan of the books and the series, and as an experienced editor (and staff member), I'm interested in becoming an admin here. Of course, I have the ability to promote myself, but I'm not in the habit of abusing my power. I'd really like to get the tag up on my profile, so people will know they can come to me if they need help with something - and so that when the season is in full swing, the info I'm adding is from a fan & not from staff. Please let me know how you feel about this; if you need references, I've worked with Opark 77 here, and QueenBuffy on True Blood Wiki. Thank you for your time!
 * http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o297/SCOTIMUS76/siggy3.png (profile)•(talk)•(email) 00:05, March 23, 2012 (UTC)


 * Thank you very much! :)
 * http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o297/SCOTIMUS76/siggy3.png (profile)•(talk)•(email) 19:15, March 23, 2012 (UTC)

Referencing
Hi Werthead, I was wondering about our referencing. At university and while writing for wikipedia or other wikias I've always worked with the convention that references go after punctuation but I noticed that you always do the opposite. Is there a reason? Would you prefer me to do the same?--Opark 77 20:29, March 29, 2012 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the reply.--Opark 77 20:20, April 1, 2012 (UTC)


 * References go after punctuations.

Flatlands image
Doesn't Ser Jorah tell Daenerys "this is the Dothraki Sea" or anything?--Gonzalo84 19:52, March 30, 2012 (UTC)

Wordmark
I started a forum topic to try and reach a consensus.--Opark 77 20:36, April 1, 2012 (UTC)

Pyke
What video is the Pyke image screencapped from?--Opark 77 17:03, April 2, 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the reply.--Opark 77 06:30, April 3, 2012 (UTC)

Main page character gallery
We're discussing altering the main page character portal on the forum. I'd appreciate your input as one of our admins.--Opark 77 21:37, April 3, 2012 (UTC)

Essos map
What is the source of the image you are using for your map of Essos? I was unaware that they had released a full map yet, particularly an official one showing Ibben, Qarth, Slaver's Bay, and the Free Cities in relation to each other.


 * HBO's Viewer's Guide website.--Werthead 20:24, April 4, 2012 (UTC)

Haystack Hall
Please could you make a map for Haystack Hall?--Opark 77 20:23, April 4, 2012 (UTC)
 * Thank you, no rush. Sounds exciting, best of luck with it. Is it for your Wertzone blog or elsewhere?--Opark 77 20:43, April 4, 2012 (UTC)

Vandalism
Hello, this member has been vandalizing the Overview Season 2 page and The Night Lands pages. I undid his damage on the Overview page, but can't undo it on Night Lands. Perhaps by the time you get this it'll have been fixed, or vandalized again (I fixed it, he did it again a minute later or so, so I had to fix Overview again right away), but you're the only person I could find to bring this to the attention of.--Sir Koji: White Knight 04:33, April 7, 2012 (UTC)


 * Just a quick update to say the pages were succesfully restored by Ser Koji and I have blocked the offending user.--Opark 77 10:30, April 7, 2012 (UTC)

Lead
I argued against it on Boardwalk Empire wiki but I thought it was the convention here. I'm happy to drop it.--Opark 77 16:18, April 15, 2012 (UTC)

new idea
Ever thought about going here: http://gameofthrones.wikia.com/wiki/Special:WikiFeatures and doing "Message Wall" instead of the old message board. Just so much easier. Let me know :) -- 07:01, April 20, 2012 (UTC)

Typographical differences between TV series and books
Opark77 and I disagreed about how to handle this so I asked in the forum if it could be put to a vote: http://gameofthrones.wikia.com/wiki/Forum:Typos_and_spelling_differences_TV_vs_books?t=20120419220122 -- I go on at length in that post, but basically this concerns how you just changed "Bhonash" back to "Bhorash". I.e. I think we should assume that common terms misspelled in supplementary materials are simply an error on the part of the production crew; no TV show is ever infallible and on such a major production there are some errors, i.e. "Greytower Watch" appears on-screen on Robb's map. Maybe we should consider it if its a different spelling prominently seen on screen. But particularly, a mispelling of a rare name like "Bhorash" or "Shamyriana" only used once or twice in the books, and only appearing in the HBO viewers guide, are probably simply in error. I am not sure how to put the matter to a vote. --The Dragon Demands 18:19, April 22, 2012 (UTC)

Pronunciation guide
Do you have a link to the part of the HBO guide site that had the pronunciation guide on it? We need it for a web citation. --The Dragon Demands 18:19, April 22, 2012 (UTC)

Duskendale
Is there a source establishing Duskendale in the adaptation? Could you add it to the article?--Opark 77 19:18, April 22, 2012 (UTC)
 * I agree it is a significant location later. I'm happy to keep it until we can add more to it unless it starts being used as a precedent to add more minor locations not established in the adaptation.--Opark 77 19:42, April 22, 2012 (UTC)
 * Seems sensible. I'm not sure what they're doing with the Bolton/Glover/Hornwood army after their rewrite of the Battle of the Green Fork.--Opark 77 19:48, April 22, 2012 (UTC)

Request for Banning
There has been an incident: http://gameofthrones.wikia.com/wiki/Garden_of_Bones?diff=prev&oldid=32242 Pass the sentence and wield the sword.--The Dragon Demands 02:10, April 24, 2012 (UTC)

Images
When uploading images please could you tag them with an appropriate category. For maps we use Category: Image (Location) and for screenshots for the second season we use Category: Image (Season 2) and usually 1 other appropriate category e.g. Category: Image (Character).--Opark 77 11:38, April 24, 2012 (UTC)
 * Just a reminder to please categorize your images.--Opark 77 14:13, May 18, 2012 (UTC)

Episode article structure
Please weigh in on this: http://gameofthrones.wikia.com/wiki/Forum:Recaps --The Dragon Demands 23:17, April 24, 2012 (UTC)
 * I've used The North Remembers as a test case for introducing your suggestions and have asked for feedback at the above forum topic.--Opark 77 08:39, April 26, 2012 (UTC)

Vandal IP address
This needs taking care of:

http://gameofthrones.wikia.com/wiki/Special:Contributions/203.104.11.11

--The Dragon Demands 01:17, April 30, 2012 (UTC)


 * I've blocked the IP in question.--Opark 77 08:17, April 30, 2012 (UTC)

Thanks
Thank you for creating this awesome Wiki!

Osiris11235 05:01, April 30, 2012 (UTC)Osiris11235

Deletion
You might want to look into this; I suspect its a bot or illegal streaming site link: http://gameofthrones.wikia.com/wiki/Game_of_Thrones_Episode_15:_The_Ghost_of_Harrenhal?oldid=34241

--The Dragon Demands 00:47, May 1, 2012 (UTC)

I've blocked the user responsible and our Queen has deleted the offending article.--Opark 77 02:33, May 1, 2012 (UTC)

Sysop rights Application
Opark told me I could apply with you. Some articles have been repeatedly vandalized around times Opark is not able to keep an eye here - I tend to login around those hours actually.--Gonzalo84 00:09, May 18, 2012 (UTC)

Just to say I agree we could do with an active American time one admin. User:Gonzalo84 has been a consistently strong editor for several months and has been active in undoing vandalism.--Opark 77 00:35, May 18, 2012 (UTC)

Just to add, I'm actually from Lima, Peru.--Gonzalo84 00:37, May 18, 2012 (UTC)

Thanks!--Gonzalo84 23:55, May 18, 2012 (UTC)

Images
Thanks for uploading:
 * File:Brandon's execution.jpg
 * File:Rhaenys Targaryen.jpg
 * File:Visenya Targaryen.jpg

Please could you add a description and categories to each of them to make them compliant with our image policy. I've nominated them for deletion in the meantime because we can't use them without this information. For the Blu-Ray featurette ones can you specify which featurette they are from?--Opark 77 15:33, May 19, 2012 (UTC)


 * Thank you.--Opark 77 22:12, May 20, 2012 (UTC)

MakingGameOfThrones.com
I have noticed that the official MakingGameOfThrones.com website by HBO includes sidebar links to several fansites, such as GRRM's Not A Blog, WinterIsComing.net, and Westeros.org itself. Given the focus of this wiki on the TV series, maybe it would be prudent to send them an e-mail asking to be included in the Links section? You have mentioned e-mailing them in the past over legal matters, etc. --The Dragon Demands 22:00, May 19, 2012 (UTC)